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AD68 fiddling while Rome burns -post your Roman denarii pics

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 Posted 10/15/2008  8:37 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I have been looking for a Nero denarius for some time. I wanted one which showed his stubbly beard.
I totally forgot that I had placed an internet bid on this one.

Usually I get outbid. However this afternoon I received an email telling me that I ended up the winner!



On the reverse is a legionary eagle between military standards.

Does anyone else collect Roman silver denarii?
Please post some pictures of them if you have any.

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10/18/2008 10:26 am
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 Posted 10/15/2008  9:44 pm  Show Profile Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats, nice coin.
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Wow, am I jealous...

Nice find!
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 Posted 10/15/2008  11:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting coin from an historical perspective, and great photo!
I guess Nero didn't care about a flattering likeness?
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 Posted 10/16/2008  04:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I guess Nero didn't care about a flattering likeness?

The early Empire was a time of realism for coin portraiture. If the emperor was ugly, the coins showed him as ugly. This contrasts strongly with the "idealism" of Greek coinage, which minimised flaws and accentuated beauty, and the "abstraction" of later Roman and Byzantine coins, where the portrait is intended to show the power, majesty, grandeur and authority of the office of emperor, rather than the identity of the emperor himself.

You could take an early Roman Empire coin, and use it to pick the emperor's face out from amongst a crowd.

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Does anyone else collect Roman silver denarii?

I have 42 of them, ranging from the early Republic period (my earliest is attributed to 157 BC) up to the mid-200's AD, by which time the denarius was fast becoming obsolete.

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Please post some pictures of them if you have any.

Four of them are already in my gallery: this one of Caracalla...


...another one of the same emperor...


...this one of Elagabalus....


...and this one of Hadrian, which I only seem to have scanned the reverse of...


I've just added a fifth to the gallery - my most recently acquired denarius filled a hole in my OFERE collection (one from each Roman emperor): Nero's successor, Galba. This one also dates from 68 AD:

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 Posted 10/16/2008  11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent collection Sap!
Pics are great also
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 Posted 10/16/2008  12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those denarii are in beautiful condition...impressive!
Sap, thanks for the info
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 Posted 10/16/2008  4:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'Day all and yes I collect denarii,I only have 27 posts and only been here for 12 day so my denarii photos will have to wait so until I get the O.K. to post then I'll post some regards harry
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 Posted 10/16/2008  6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sir Ferrari to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I have 42 of them


WOW, compare that to my large group of three.

I do actually have quite a few silver "double-denarii" (commonly known as antoniniani), my favorites being of Philip the Arab and his son Philip II.
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Also, to nuggethill, you can post pictures as much as you want! There is no post or time requirment to do that.

Lets see those denarii!!
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 Posted 10/16/2008  7:06 pm  Show Profile Check Jaobler's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have just two denarii. I've posted them before but this is a good time to bring 'em out again!

The older is Naevius Balbus, dating from 79 BC, depicting Venus on the obverse and a 3-horse chariot (Triga?) on the reverse. This is a "serrate" denarius with the notches around the edge.




The other is from 220 AD and shows Julia Paula (wife of Elagabalus) on the obverse and Concordia on the reverse.



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 Posted 10/16/2008  7:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gawd0wns to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jaobler, the Naevius Balbus you posted is amazing!
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Very nice denarii, Sap! So the 'S' in COS was entered backwards on the Hadrian?
What do the seven stars and crescent represent?
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 Posted 10/16/2008  8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coins, Jaobler! The Eagle holders might work for me too. Often the relief is too high on denarii to fit them into airtights.
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So the 'S' in COS was entered backwards on the Hadrian?

Yep. The die engraver must have been a trainee, or in a hurry, or had a cold or something - the S is backwards, the O is filled in, the stars are randomly scattered about instead of a neat hexagonal pattern like they normally are on this type, and the centration hole which was supposed to be masked by one of the stars, is showing as a small "8th star" in the centre of the coin. All in all, a very sloppy job.

Not that I'm complaining, mind.

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What do the seven stars and crescent represent?

I don't think we know for sure. Unlike the "comet coins" of Augustus, I don't think it records a particular astronomical event, because this reverse can be found on coins of several emperors. I've always imagined the Moon symbol was linked with the cult of the goddess Diana/Artemis, and the seven stars represent the seven hills of Rome. Thus the coin symbolizes Diana embracing and protecting Rome.
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Augustus, the first Roman Emperor. Even as an old man, he always maintained a youthful portrait on his coins.

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