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What is the approximate value of a New Zealand florin?

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 Posted 01/25/2010  2:59 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rareflorincoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

What is the approximate value of a New Zealand florin Obverse George V Emporer, dated 1935 and 1933?

I would like to know the individual value of 1933, 1935 and 1934 New Zealand florins and shillings. Complete collection holds well over 100 coins.

Difficult to tell from some of their color whether or not one may be a proof. Total in circulation 735,000, 500,000 and so forth for shillings and florins.

Should I post images of some of these in the grading forum?

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 Posted 01/25/2010  3:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Images will be most helpful, because values are also based on the condition, or grade of a coin.
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 Posted 01/25/2010  3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rareflorincoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the tip.

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 Posted 01/25/2010  4:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just to give you a rough idea, these values are from the 2008 edition of The NZ coin & Banknote Catalog:

NZ Florins:

Yr....Mintage....Av.Circ......VF....EF....AU.....BU

1933..2.1m.......$7..........$40....$90...$250...$700

1934..2.85m......$7..........$40...$90...$250...$650

1935..755,000...$7..........$70...$140..$450...$900
(Proof FDC $900)

NZ Shillings:

Yr....Mintage....Av.Circ.....VF....EF....AU.....BU

1933..2m.........$5..........$30....$80...$200...$500

1934..3.4m.......$5..........$30...$80...$200...$650

1935..1.68m......$5.........$45...$110..$350...$700
(Proof FDC $850)

Those values are of course in NZ Dollars.
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 Posted 02/15/2010  3:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rareflorincoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I need a link to the database for New Zealand coins where those values are coming from. Thanks for any assistance you can offer!
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 Posted 02/15/2010  4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rareflorincoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMPORTANT!:

New Zealand Mint exchange and bank notes catalog only list historical coins ranging from 1935-2006!

They claimed it went back to 1840 and it is nowhere to be found.

The Halfpenny coins I have uncovered are from 1931 and 1920 and are Queen Elizabeth the Second FIRST EDITIONS with the Roman emporer on the back holding a finely carved pitchfork and on the other a skipper's ship containing a mistake.

They go back before the official mintage period. How am I going to get the answers and what do I do?

No values listed here either...
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Is it worth somewhere between.....$15 and $50?
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Rareflorin, next time, you might attract more attention to your questions if you start a new thread - a thread titled "What is the approximate value of a New Zealand florin?" isn't where I would look for a question about halfpennies.

As to your question: New Zealand did not begin issuing it's own coinage until 1933, and didn't issue copper coins until 1940. The halfpennies with the "Roman emperor on the back holding a finely carved pitchfork" - it's actually Britannia, a female figure - and the halfpennies with the "skipper's ship" are British. You won't find them in a New Zealand catalogue or website. I don't know what "Queen Elizabeth the Second" has to do with either coin, since they were both well before her time as monarch.

Those dates of British halfpennies are very common - in typical condition, they're less than a dollar each.
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If they are British, what is the criteria for grading?

And as they are pure bronze in very fine condition, where do I find more information on their value particularly misprints?
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If you've got lots of British coins to grade, this book might be of assistance to you. Subtract a grade level to convert from British to US grading standards.

As for a "database" of values for your British and New Zealand coins... there isn't a free-to-access one that covers all countries. To access prices on NumisMaster you have to pay a monthly or annual subscription.

Tony Clayton's website has a database of the commoner types of British coins; prices are in British pounds so you'll have to convert to US$. I can't find anyone online that specifically lists New Zealand coins.

The value of error coins - coins are struck, not printed, so such errors are called "mis-strikes", not "mis-prints" - depends on the nature and degree of error; there isn't a standard pricing structure for them. If you post a pic of the error coin in question, people can offer an opinion on it.
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Thanks a lot. Clayton's guide was extremely helpful. If it is not Queen Elizabeth, these could be worth about $20 a piece in uncirculated very fine which it appears to be.

But, none of these guides answer the question about errors or mis-strikes. These were in the "variety" section so I believe there is a few errors of some type, and I really would like to believe there is a non-biased "error" mint guide out there somewhere. That's what I am looking for, a way to compare values due to these errors in the coins and see how high or low they appear.
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Quote:
The halfpennies with the "Roman emperor on the back holding a finely carved pitchfork" - it's actually Britannia, a female figure...

I love it, thank you.

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 Posted 02/16/2010  4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I need a link to the database for New Zealand coins where those values are coming from. Thanks for any assistance you can offer!


The values I gave above are taken from this printed BOOK: 2008 Edition - New Zealand Coin & Banknote Catalogue, author Howard Mitchell. As far as I know, there's no website.

You can try contacting the author: howardm@ihugdotcodotnz

Give him a list of all the coins you feel are errors or varieties and see what response you get. The book mentioned above does have a few error/variety coins listed, but not many. He may just offer to sell you a current edition of the book.

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 Posted 02/17/2010  1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zaggy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The Halfpenny coins I have uncovered are from 1931 and 1920 and are Queen Elizabeth the Second FIRST EDITIONS with the Roman emporer on the back holding a finely carved pitchfork and on the other a skipper's ship containing a mistake.


OK, Queen Elizabeth II wasn't born until 1926 and didnt become 'QUEEN' Elizabeth until 1952. Half-Penny coins of this era should feature King George V.

As for the error, got a picture? We can give you more help if you show us what you're actually talking about (no offense, but your posts are a bit confusing, describing Monarch's that hadn't been born and roman emperor's - the Roman 'occupation' of 'Britannia', ended in aroun 400AD (Give or take; this is not my main area of Historical Interest), etc)...
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