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 Posted 01/03/2014  12:43 am Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rupester to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Hello everyone, So I have decided to venture into the world of nickels. And of course the first thing to come up is the "steps" im digging through my boxes of sliced up mint sets and have found something I hope someone has a answer to. It seems the proof coins are all full steps makes sense to me. The 1965-1967 nickels vary in full steps or not, the MS coins have a large variance but I do see the occasional full step circulation strikes.
1.- proof coin not full step would be odd?
2. -1965-1967 a full step is desirable? And perhaps kinda rare?
3. Mint set nickels you just gotta be lucky for full step?
Any thoughts? Thanks for any answer I am just starting this. And of course dreaming of finding all full step coins!

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 Posted 01/03/2014  12:04 pm  Show Profile Check kookoox10's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add kookoox10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You absolutely correct by stating that mid-60's full steppers are prohibitively rare. I've only seen a few early die state examples sell in the thousands.
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 Posted 01/03/2014  12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Proof nickels *should* have six full steps, although I suppose that there could be partial-step proofs in years where quality control was more slipshod. All proofs since the late 60s should certainly have full steps.

Where are the '65-67 nickels from? SMS or circulation? Circulation strikes are poorly made as a rule (same reason they suspended mint marks--to discourage collecting), so full steps on any of those would be quite a find. The SMS coins, while not a proof per se, were still made with better dies than the circulation strikes, and should typically have at least partial steps.

As for mint sets, I'm afraid I'm not an expert on those. My understanding is that the Mint uses new dies to make the coins, so they *should* all have full steps, although it's again subject to Mint quality standards for that particular year.
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 Posted 01/03/2014  3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rupester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great info thank you!! Theanks very much
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 Posted 01/03/2014  4:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Odd no one mentioned that we are discussing Jefferson nickels. Hopefully that is the coin we are talking about. Not to many other Nickels are famous for full steps. Not many steps on a Indian Head Nickel.
I have 6 completed sets of Jefferson nickels. Set #1 is as close to all full steps as possible. All are from change except the Proofs of course. Yet looking at them recently I noticed few actually do have full steps and they were taken from change however by that I mean over many years always looking for the best ones. It is odd too that regardless of how perfect such a completed set is, the value is really not to impressive. Possibly one of the worst US coins for appreciation, value and resale. Always wondered why.
My suggestion is if now intested in Nickels, change to Indian Head/Buffalo Nickels. Naturally more difficult and more expemsive but well worth it at the end.
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 Posted 01/04/2014  12:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rupester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We have a scientific method for collecting whatever excites us at the moment. We really enjoy the hobby and todays special is jeffersons. We went roll hunting out of ten dollars we got 1940-1944d-1954s-1957d plus a gob of fillers 60-s70's-80's rolls and our mint sets were going to get some more rolls soon and get some more the LCS has all the rest we probably will need its fun filling books! Im sure there is some tougher key dates and of course the varieties but for now book #9 is 50% complete!!
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 Posted 01/04/2014  12:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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3. Mint set nickels you just gotta be lucky for full step?


Depends on the year. Now a days just like DCAM has become the norm for proofs, full steps occurs more often than not with the improvement in minting technology. Post 2000 mint sets should have it, in the 1990s theres was a pretty good chance and the further you go back the less likely it is.
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 Posted 01/06/2014  9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rupester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Found a 1965 sms full step nickel should I get excited?
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 Posted 01/06/2014  11:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would suggest getting a book

"A guide book of Buffalo and Jefferson nickels"

BY Q. David Bowers

It has good information about each date and mint Jefferson
nickel. Also information on how rare each is, in relation
to full steps.

Jefferson nickels are one of my favorite series to collect.
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 Posted 01/07/2014  02:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rupester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks GR58! Much appreciated!
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 Posted 01/07/2014  02:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 65 SMS arent that rare in fullsteps except in the highest grades, so it would really depend on what it would grade
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