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 Posted 04/21/2017  01:02 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


We all know eBay can't police 100's of thousands of REPORT ITEM everyday.


Just looking for your opinion on this:
I know 100% its a high end[$1,000+] counterfeit gold coin or bar listed with pics.
Seller has sold[with positive feedback received] and has relisted many again with pics.
I leave negative feedback seconds after winning eBay auction. Knowing I'll never pay.
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 Posted 04/21/2017  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alex12780 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller will just repost the item for sale again and your eBay account will get a strike.
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 Posted 04/21/2017  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I leave negative feedback seconds after winning eBay auction. Knowing I'll never pay.


If I understand correctly, why would you do that?

Don't bid in the first place. Don't leave negative feedback before you receive what you purchased (or didn't). Am I on the wrong track here or did you make a lot of assumptions?

Is this hypothetical or something that actually happened?

If it's hypothetical, it's simple: Stay Away.
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 Posted 04/21/2017  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While selling counterfeits is wrong. Bidding on an auction knowing you are never going to pay if you win is also wrong. Leaving negative feedback makes it even worse IMO.

Like mamma always said "Two wrongs don't make it right."

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 Posted 04/21/2017  03:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coconutjoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you list eBay link to the possible fake gold coin?

I'm sure if many of us look at it, then we might have better idea.
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 Posted 04/21/2017  03:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do it occasionally.I don't like what a seller is doing. I have notified him for selling counterfeit items. Still sells them.
Reporting to eBay is useless.They do nothing. makes me mad.
Probably done it 10 times in last 6 months. It's purpose is to scramble them and the paypal fees and know there being watched.
Never got a strike. Still get eBay Bucks coupons. got an 8% coupon code today.
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 Posted 04/21/2017  09:45 am  Show Profile   Check XavierOfGreen's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you don't pay, the seller will file an unpaid item case. Once their unpaid item case is processed, any negative feedback you left will be removed as part of the unpaid item strike. So there really is no point.
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Nickel: 1883 (from roll) ---- Dime: 1911 (from roll)
Quarter: 1932 (from machine) ---- Half: 1917 (from roll)
Dollar: 1880 (from machine) ---- Foreign: 1863 (from machine)
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 Posted 04/21/2017  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my humble opinion, bidding without intending to pay is wrong. No matter the reason, IMHO, it's just wrong.
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 Posted 04/21/2017  10:06 am  Show Profile   Check flag4's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add flag4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as I know, it's still a felony to knowingly represent fake gold as real with the intent to commit fraud. But you would have to take possession of the product, have it tested and file charges with the authorities.
Probably better off just exposing his ads here on the eBay sub-forum.
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 Posted 04/21/2017  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/21/2017  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Check XavierOfGreen's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BStrauss3, those three lefts only make a right if they are at least 60 degree turns, anything less and you'll still be heading more or less left
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 Posted 04/21/2017  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldflake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
re:Coconutjoe
I posted it the other day--- Alert eBay seller illinois63 Counterfeit Perth Mint gold multiple sales

Asked by a friend to put into blog. To warn others of listing.
Obvious fake illinois63 sold at least 6 recently.
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/illinois63/m.html
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 Posted 04/21/2017  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I couldn't care less what people do to these counterfeiters. Send them counterfeit checks.
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 Posted 05/06/2017  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Send them counterfeit checks.


Why would you ever encourage people to commit a federal felony?
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 Posted 05/06/2017  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do ya think he might be joking?
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 Posted 05/06/2017  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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any negative feedback you left will be removed as part of the unpaid item strike. So there really is no point.


The seller has 100% positive feedback so this practice is futile in the end and is more like

Like bobby, I don't care what people do with these but, I won't be participating in it. A part of my livelihood is selling on eBay and I try to be as honest as I can when selling or buying.
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