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No more Body Bagged coins from PCGS?

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MorganNoob
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Posted 11/14/2008  6:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add MorganNoob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message

I just got this in my email from PCGS...

"No more body bags! PCGS is introducing a major change in its grading process, effective for submissions received after December 1, 2008. Coins that would have previously been no-graded and returned in a body bag will now be placed in a regular PCGS holder and labeled simply "Genuine." Of course this applies only to coins that have been verified to be authentic. PCGS is dropping its Genuine-only service level. Now coins can be holdered in Genuine holders regardless of the service level for which they are submitted. Variety and attribution services will be provided for Genuine coins. For example, if you submit a number of Early Half Dollars with the Overton variety requested, your coins (assuming they are authentic) will be holdered with the Overton variety and grade or with the Overton variety and Genuine (see the PCGS website for a description of grading standards at www.pcgs.com/grades.chtml. This service will also apply to crossovers, so all your coins can now be in PCGS holders."



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Posted 11/14/2008  6:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

"Crack !"
That's the sound of me taking some of my problem coins out of the ANACS holder and submitting them to PCGS.


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Posted 11/14/2008  8:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ShadowCreator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Hahaha 1sikevo, that is so true.

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bmanofnbc
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Posted 11/14/2008  8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bmanofnbc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I think this will initially bring a lot more coins to PCGS for grading but in the long run it may hurt the re-sale value of PCGS slabbed coins.

Part of the reason people buy PCGS slabbed coins for a premium price is becuse they appear to be more selective in what they are willing to slab.

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bherring1964
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Posted 11/14/2008  9:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bherring1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Quote:
Part of the reason people buy PCGS slabbed coins for a premium price is becuse they appear to be more selective in what they are willing to slab.


I think this is only partly true. PCGS is known as the toughest of the "Big 4" TPG. Slabbing coins simply as "GENUINE" shouldn't hurt the value of their regular slabs with assigned grades.

That being said, I do agree that the volume of coins that will now (or could now) be in PCGS slabs might dilute their value slightly.

Overall: It's a great idea.

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Posted 11/14/2008  11:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

About time! It's only fair really, they still make you pay for a bodybag.


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TreasHunt
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Posted 11/15/2008  08:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Agreed that it is about time.

At least now you get a 'Genuine' for the fee, better than before.



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Posted 11/15/2008  10:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Wow...I'm guessing they needed to encourage more submissions.
If PCGS leads, NGC might follow.

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Posted 11/15/2008  10:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I know my 1846 Seated Lib dime is going back. I agree that this is long over due.
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AuldFartte
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Posted 11/15/2008  12:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AuldFartte to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Methinks all that is is a plastic body bag


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Posted 11/15/2008  12:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Quote:
Methinks all that is is a plastic body bag

well, high valued coins (even if it has problems) are copied and that is why ANACS gets so much business, its not for the grades they put on the slab its to prove the coin is genuine to the buyer so in a slab that just says genuine is all thats really needed to prove that fact. And about NGC following suit, I don't think that will happen because then they would have to do away with NCS's part of slabbing problem coins and I just don't think that will ever happen


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Posted 11/15/2008  2:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coindexter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I agree with Bryan1315. It's better then a blank bag.
Here is a quote from CCCS(Canadian coins) same type of deal

Coins warranting negative comments such as "Cleaned, Scratch, Edge or Rim Nick, Polished and Damaged, etc. will not be put in Hard Holders but will instead be graded and encapsulated in our Soft Holder for the same price. The majority of companies using Hard Holders return these coins uncertified in a "Body Bag" and keep the price paid. As an alternative, CCCS will still certify these coins but use the Soft Holder format. Please ensure that coins sent for Hard Holder certification are problem free as no amount will be returned


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Posted 11/15/2008  3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I think it is a good idea and applaud their offering this service.

IMHO, the only benefit any TPG slab gives is its authentication of the coin. I give no value whatsoever to the grade since I use my own opinion when buying. Also, I would just crack it out anyway, so any added monetary value would be lost at that point!


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Posted 11/23/2008  9:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 900fine to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

"If PCGS leads, NGC might follow."

NGC has been offering a similar service for a long time via their brother company NCS. Submit a questionable coin to NCS; if it's bad, they slab as genuine and optionally give a details grade. If it's good, they just re-route it to NGC for a real slab.

Smart marketing; they put some space between the good name of NGC and slabbed problem coins. They're the only TPG to do so.

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Posted 11/23/2008  10:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

900fine!

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Posted 12/15/2008  11:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I've got an 1886-S LSD with corrosion in an ANACS holder AU details. On it's way to PCGS.


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