I'd call the first one VF or at least very near VF. A grading key for these is the outer-edge feather detail on each wing of the reverse. When those edges are completely flat, you're in the F-VF territory. On the other hand, the obverse looks pretty strong--note that the beard lines below the lips are still there, which is usually not the case in low grades.
The second is definitely not getting above Good, with the apparent corrosion and deterioration marring an otherwise decent-looking pair of surfaces--after all no. 2 has better wing feathers than 1!
As for the "K", I don't see doubling, but the effects of corrosion and wear.
Edited by SeriousCERES
02/15/2009 8:07 pm