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 Posted 08/09/2010  5:21 pm Show Profile Check XavierOfGreen's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I just checked my order status on a 1861 quarter eagle I bought on eBay that I had sent out to anacs. It states in the grade box N9 which I read as questionable authenticity, altered coin. I will post pics of it when I get it back, but my question at the moment is do they tell you their reasoning for an n9?

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XoG

Oldest Found-------
Cent: 1842 (from machine) ---- Three Cent: 1866 [Nickel] (from machine)
Nickel: 1883 (from roll) ---- Dime: 1911 (from roll)
Quarter: 1932 (from machine) ---- Half: 1917 (from roll)
Dollar: 1880 (from machine) ---- Foriegn: 1863 (from machine)
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 Posted 08/09/2010  5:44 pm  Show Profile Check XavierOfGreen's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All it says on the order page is N9
Oldest Found-------
Cent: 1842 (from machine) ---- Three Cent: 1866 [Nickel] (from machine)
Nickel: 1883 (from roll) ---- Dime: 1911 (from roll)
Quarter: 1932 (from machine) ---- Half: 1917 (from roll)
Dollar: 1880 (from machine) ---- Foriegn: 1863 (from machine)
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 Posted 08/09/2010  6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you could probably give them a call to see why the gave it that.
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 Posted 08/10/2010  01:39 am  Show Profile Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It states in the grade box N9 which I read as questionable authenticity, altered coin.


Was it an 1861-S? Maybe ANACS thought it was an added S.

TPG normally don't call out a coin as counterfeit to avoid legal hassles. Questionable Authenticity is a politically correct way to say fake. Altered is another matter. Please fill us in when you can.
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 Posted 08/12/2010  2:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so did you ever figure out what was going on?
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 Posted 08/14/2010  1:17 pm  Show Profile Check XavierOfGreen's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The fedex package should be arriving today, and ill give them a call once I receive it. The coin submitted was a 1861 p. Once I get it back ill post pics of it.

There are pics on the eBay page here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...290444066124
Oldest Found-------
Cent: 1842 (from machine) ---- Three Cent: 1866 [Nickel] (from machine)
Nickel: 1883 (from roll) ---- Dime: 1911 (from roll)
Quarter: 1932 (from machine) ---- Half: 1917 (from roll)
Dollar: 1880 (from machine) ---- Foriegn: 1863 (from machine)
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 Posted 08/16/2010  3:00 pm  Show Profile Check XavierOfGreen's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well the packing slip says it was a struck copy, it sure looked real to me.
Oldest Found-------
Cent: 1842 (from machine) ---- Three Cent: 1866 [Nickel] (from machine)
Nickel: 1883 (from roll) ---- Dime: 1911 (from roll)
Quarter: 1932 (from machine) ---- Half: 1917 (from roll)
Dollar: 1880 (from machine) ---- Foriegn: 1863 (from machine)
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 Posted 08/16/2010  4:46 pm  Show Profile Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Well the packing slip says it was a struck copy, it sure looked real to me.


You should be able to get a refund through eBay/PayPal. It is a very good copy. ANACS said it was die struck and from the looks of it, it's likely got a high gold content also.
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 Posted 08/16/2010  5:05 pm  Show Profile Check XavierOfGreen's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how would I go about getting a refund? should I contact the seller or eBay itself?
Oldest Found-------
Cent: 1842 (from machine) ---- Three Cent: 1866 [Nickel] (from machine)
Nickel: 1883 (from roll) ---- Dime: 1911 (from roll)
Quarter: 1932 (from machine) ---- Half: 1917 (from roll)
Dollar: 1880 (from machine) ---- Foriegn: 1863 (from machine)
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 Posted 08/16/2010  5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would contact the seller first. If that doesn't help contact eBay/paypal or whoever. Just be prepared to prove its the same coin though
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 Posted 08/16/2010  10:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would have thought if it was a struck copy with out saying copy on it they would call the ss like it says they will do on there website.
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 Posted 08/17/2010  12:51 am  Show Profile Check XavierOfGreen's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The exact wording on the packing slip states-
Coin-Comments:Not Genuine. Struck Copy.
As you can see from the pics in the eBay listing above the words copy cannot be found anywhere on the coin.

-XoG
Oldest Found-------
Cent: 1842 (from machine) ---- Three Cent: 1866 [Nickel] (from machine)
Nickel: 1883 (from roll) ---- Dime: 1911 (from roll)
Quarter: 1932 (from machine) ---- Half: 1917 (from roll)
Dollar: 1880 (from machine) ---- Foriegn: 1863 (from machine)
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 Posted 08/17/2010  12:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
keep us updated, when you find out what the seller says
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 Posted 08/17/2010  12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if you have a heritage account you should check out this one graded by NGC. http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...o=1332#Photo the reverse is different than yours. Not sure if they had 2 reverses in 1861 or not.
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 Posted 08/17/2010  12:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like there is 2 reverses so disregard that last statement
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 Posted 08/17/2010  1:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What it probably is is one of the counterfeits struck in the Middle East back in the 1950's and 1960's. There were a LOT of them made.


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Just be prepared to prove its the same coin though

Having the photos from the auction will help since it has distinctive marks.

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