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1965 Canada Cent Pointed and Blunt 5

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 Posted 08/30/2010  8:36 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mbird to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I hope you don't mind if I post some pics and ask if you think these are blunt or pointed 5's to help me as I learn to see these. I scan them so I can get a better look and compare than I would with just a magnifier or loop. I still have trouble making a positive identification on blunt vs. pointed.

On the top row I can see #1 and #6 are blunt (I think) but the rest of the row (2, 3, 4, 5) is in question.

On the bottom row I think 7, 8, 10 are blunt and 9 is pointed.

If you can confirm/deny that would be appreciated!

Thank you!




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 Posted 08/31/2010  09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I actually think they are all blunt. I don't have a point of reference to compare to at the moment, but the pointed 5 on the '65's is at about a 45 degree angle
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 Posted 08/31/2010  10:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
agree with splatto, all blunt. some blunts are slightly pointed, but the true pointed 5's are extremely pointed.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  10:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mbird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What about #8 and #9 -- they are dramatically different. Could #9 be pointed?
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 Posted 08/31/2010  1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see many differences between a lot of the coins. The blunts are not all exactly the same. Keep in mind that the Mint uses more than one die to strike coins.

I believe others have said that there are more than one type of blunt 5, I would say that these two fall into that category. #8 is the 'most blunt' blunt 5 you posted, and #9 is the 'most pointed' blunt 5 you posted. They are both blunt though.

I don't have access to a pointed 5 picture right now, but just trust splatto's comment that the pointed 5 is nearly at a 45 degree angle. #9 looks no more than 15 degrees. When you see a pointed 5, you'll know it.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of all the verified pointed 5's I've seen, the "point" looks like a die chip or flaw at the end of the stroke (to me).
Whatever the cause, it's pretty dramatic, and I agree with Splatto, the group above looks blunt to me too.

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 Posted 08/31/2010  4:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mbird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1cent makes a good point in this post saying: Here is a scan I took of the PT5, notice in particular the
length of the point, and how close it is to the maple twig.


I notice that holds true in the images that DVCollector supplied above -- the pointed 5 is very close to the maple twig and the point is very pointy.

I now see that all mine are blunts. I think (as 1cent noted) that I will not concentrate on the slant anymore but on the pointiness and on the closeness to the twig.
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 Posted 09/03/2010  1:05 pm  Show Profile Check cladhunter13's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add cladhunter13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a 1965 Pointed 5 that I found a few months back. The slant of the 5 is dramatic compared to the standard 5.

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 Posted 09/04/2010  03:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed, all of the OP's fives are blunt. I find the pointed 5's to be tough to find in circulation,
even with the small beads obverse. I agree 100% with DVC about the nature of the point, and it's well
illustrated by cladhunter's PT5 above if you know what you're looking at. At the tip of the point extends
a tiny bit more of a point, and along the diagonal of the point will change in appearance depending on what
angle you view it from. Every PT5 I've seen exhibits this, which leads me to believe that the PT5 may very
well have been the result of a single die. This also brings into question for me the circumstances of the five proof-like PT5's ICCS has graded to date. If anyone out there has one, I'd sure love to study a high
res picture or scan of it.
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 Posted 09/04/2010  09:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hopping_rabbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great topic.
Would love to get my hands on one of these in a roll. Tough to come by.
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