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Johnson Matthey Silver Rounds - Bill of Rights Complete Set

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tripncoins
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 Posted 04/13/2011  5:42 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Alright, once again I was in my dealer shop just looking around and I purchased 10 Johnson Matthey Bill Of Rights coins. Each coin has its own description.

I thought they were pretty cool and he told me these were a little rare due to the fact they are a sealed complete set, never opened. And he said they are in excellent shape (no tarnish either)

I walked out picking up 26 oz of silver today @ 41.25 cents per ounce.

Question to the forum: Has anyone seen these coins before? And are they hard to find? I looked on eBay and they are certainly going higher than what I paid today.

Thanks for any input, advice or comments.





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04/13/2011 6:24 pm
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 Posted 04/13/2011  6:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ayejay1974 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Johnson Matthey is one of the most respectable and sought after bullion producers. Like Engelhard, JM items usually carry a bit of a premium. You see sets of these every so often, just not "that" often. Most of the time you see singles. With today's spot price of silver, that was a good buy on your part.
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 Posted 04/13/2011  6:45 pm  Show Profile Check rastatodd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I own 3 or four of them. Think they were minted in the 80's. Now correct me if I'm wrong but did Johnson Matthey discontinue producing silver bars and rounds of any size?
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 Posted 04/13/2011  7:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
rastatodd - Yes that is correct. No new Johnson Matthey silver bars have been poured since the mid 1980's.
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 Posted 04/13/2011  7:21 pm  Show Profile Check rastatodd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tripncoins,
Some of the premiums their getting for any kind of Johnson Matthey silver whether it be round or bar. Is about equal to or worse than the premiums one pays for ASE, now a days.
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 Posted 04/13/2011  7:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RastaTodd - He had these sealed ones sitting next to his generic silver rounds. He was asking all of them for the same price. It didn't matter if it was an Engelhard Prospector or JM rounds. Even some generic ingots / art bars / 3 oz generic bars / 5 oz generic bars and rounds were all the same price. I took the best of the lot I think. Some were really beat up. He offered me an ASE for the same price but it was scratched up and he considered it just silver (I passed on it) - then again I've never owned an ASE and just for grins, perhaps I should have taken it. This was the ONLY sealed one in that massive tray of random silver. I might go back and pick up the rest of the Engelhard Prospectors. Who knows. I need to take a break.
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04/13/2011 7:38 pm
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these rounds are neat, owned a few before.
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 Posted 04/13/2011  9:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ayejay1974 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you can get the prospectors for the same price, by all means go back and get them.
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 Posted 04/13/2011  9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vinnycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
geez, your dealer has some of the coolest stuff!! congratz on the new investment!
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 Posted 04/13/2011  9:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice, I like those! Never seen them before, I agree with all that those are a solid smart buy. It seems like a no brain-er to me to go Engelhard or JM. Sure the carry a higher premium, but hey are sought after and will always fetch a nice premium later I think most would agree....

Plus any rare complete silver set of high quality .9999 is just a good buy IMO....

I don't know about the rest of ya, but I feel like I am takin the dealer to the cleaners by trading him those fading dollars for that nice silver....
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04/13/2011 9:40 pm
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 Posted 04/14/2011  7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did pick up Prospectors that day & a 10 oz JM Bar. Glad I did, silver did nice for today :)
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04/14/2011 7:45 pm
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 Posted 04/14/2011  10:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vinnycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
indeed, one can't complain about a dollar half increase!

unless of course you're like me who still needs more!
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 Posted 04/14/2011  11:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I don't know about the rest of ya, but I feel like I am takin the dealer to the cleaners by trading him those fading dollars for that nice silver.... - Silverhawk


That's what makes for a great bargain... when both parties walk away feeling good and thinking the same thing.
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