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1889 Morgan Dollar - clashed - doubled -?

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 Posted 05/19/2011  8:24 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add bullitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I recently purchased a 1889 P Morgan silver dollar. It looks odd as in different. I have some "clashed" coins. I have some "double" stamped - yet this is different.

There seems to be a clean clear impression/highlight surrounding the out side of her face all the way back to her bonnet.

She also appears to be of the "Hot lips type" -
Then off the top tip of her eye lash looks like a point or V shape.
Traveling under her chin to where it meets the top of her neck - there's a spike looking projection.
The base of the M seems to melt away and the center lines don't engage.
At the bottom of her bonnet there is two projections - one V shaped - open end facing bonnet.
Above that appears sort of a lightening bolt object.
The stars seem almost sunk in at the out edges - they all appear sort of squished flat as well - but lumpy.
The 1889 is clean and clear - yet appears to also be highlighted and the bases look doubled.
I will be posting photo's - my camera is not the best - any help/info would be helpful - I am considering having it graded because it appears so unusual and uncleaned/uncirculated.

Thanks for your opinions. .

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05/19/2011 8:31 pm
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 Posted 05/20/2011  03:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
need better pictures of what you are seeing..please don't make them so angled...and in focus...1889m is a tough year at best...your pictures look well basined...concaved but it could just be your pics..
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 Posted 05/20/2011  06:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ceylon62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to CCF.

As aladin said need better pics.

From the looks of it -- The coin does have a unique look.
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 Posted 05/20/2011  12:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The die is sunken...... other coins struck by this die will look similar/the same..... determine the VAM, and you may be better armed to make the decision about encapsulation...
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 Posted 05/24/2011  11:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add morgans dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum, I see what appears to be clashes behind Anna's neck, you have expressed some clashed sounding marks, behind her neck, out of her neck, etc, if someone could post a Morgan dollar overlay I am sure things would be clearer to understand.
I also see the ( as mentioned above ) sunken perimeter of the coin, the stars and date seem sunken, very nice looking feature, not common, yet not uncommon. I would ask is there an apparent clash mark in the form of a line on the reverse from the eagle's right wing going up to the letters "IN" I would venture there would be one as you have explained the clash from her neck, which this directly explains that clash.
I hope you see a overlay and it explains some of the "marks" you spoke of, good luck, Mike. PS, I see in the Morgan/Peace forum here where you posted this topic there is another topic about Morgan dollar overlays, there is aa picture in that topic that is an overlay, check it out!
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 Posted 05/27/2011  10:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See if this overlay helps.



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 Posted 05/27/2011  10:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Or better yet, check out this post here on CCF titled morgan overlay

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...PIC_ID=88669
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Die Clash overlays
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 Posted 05/30/2011  8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
check your coin with VAM3 on VW descriptions, Might just be a winner!post a picture there perhaps a member there has one to verify..
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