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Possible real 1943 copper penny!?

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 Posted 02/29/2012  7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MezRHD - You have everything you need to make your decision. It's pretty simple from this end of the computer. You've been told that with NO doubt your coin is fake. NO grading service will put it in a holder, so don't bother wasting your time or money. Find a nice holder to put it in, print a copy of this thread for your records, and forget about it. That way whomever ends up with it next will already have their research done for them.
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 Posted 02/29/2012  8:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Now THAT one is scary.

I feel like hiding under my bed after seeing that.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  02:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EnigmaticMindx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That last picture is a counterfeit? I am FAR from an expert but I would have been dancing around like I had won the lottery if I found that in my pocket change!
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 Posted 03/01/2012  06:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mez...I know it's going to irk or haunt you until you're satisfied either way.

I think it's time for you to defer to some expert more knowledgeable than yourself for your own peace of mind about the coin.

Your choices, as I see them:

1. defer to the experts here (one of which posted pictures of a fabulously counterfeited 43)
2. send the coin in to a TPG
3. store the coin and promise yourself you'll not think about it for a year.

Commit and surrender to one of those choices.

I feel you, man. I own two counterfeits I wish werent counterfeits every time I think about them or see them in my collection...and I've been thinking about them and seeing them for decades.

Theyre not slabbed.

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 Posted 03/01/2012  11:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 909records to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well I never had it checked but im pretty sure its fake
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 Posted 03/01/2012  12:01 pm  Show Profile Check coop's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Magnet test would probably be what you need on your coin 909records?
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 Posted 03/01/2012  12:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on the odds alone, 909records's coin is probably a fake, but it sure looks better than any of the plated ones I've seen. The plated ones never quite seem to look the right color/texture for a 60 year old Wheat cent. And it looks better than the other struck counterfeits I've seen, like the original one from this post, or cast counterfeits I've seen. It also looks better than ones I've seen with modified dates.

If I had one that looked like that, I don't know how I could let it sit without checking it out. Please at least do a magnet test!

I remember seeing my first in-hand fake Morgan at a local coin dealer. I forget the date on the coin, but it was a completely common one, and it was in circulated condition. It didn't look "right", but I couldn't put my finger on what was wrong with it. It didn't feel like a real coin in hand (wrong weight and texture, it had the slippery feel of cast metal). Probably it would be obviously cast under any kind of magnification. It was pretty scary though because I know it would easily fool somebody who didn't know coins, and I knew there were really sophisticated counterfeits out there that I wouldn't be able to detect.
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 Posted 03/08/2012  1:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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As a teaching example and nothing much more.
I'll bid 30 dollars on a fake 1943 copper!


We have them in stock, how many you want?
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 Posted 03/08/2012  2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that was a great read! Hopefully the OP will do the right thing and keep it. 909, I usually have a very keen nose to sniff out a counterfeit, but that copper 43 of yours would practically stop my heart if I found it searching a bag of wheats. To me, THAT one is worth checking out, not necessarily sending it off to a TPG to have the possibility of the government ending up with it, but taking it to a nearby large show and having some experts look at it in hand. A few dozen of these exist; to me the existence of another would not be an impossibility.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  9:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Didn't the SS confiscate the ANA'S black cabinet and return it to them back in the 70s?

As others point out, the SS can confiscate fakes and altered coins, but I doubt that obvious copies of 43 cents are high on their list. After all, they don't bother confiscating 1804 dollars or 1913 V nickels, both of which are as unauthorized as 1933 $20 gold pieces.
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 Posted 03/17/2012  4:42 pm  Show Profile Check XavierOfGreen's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if SGS would certify it as genuine, there is the potential for some serious fraud to occur with the third tier TGP's (which is why I would never bid on such a thing in a third tier slab).
Oldest Found-------
Cent: 1842 (from machine) ---- Three Cent: 1866 [Nickel] (from machine)
Nickel: 1883 (from roll) ---- Dime: 1911 (from roll)
Quarter: 1932 (from machine) ---- Half: 1917 (from roll)
Dollar: 1880 (from machine) ---- Foriegn: 1863 (from machine)
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 Posted 03/17/2012  5:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MezRDH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am still sitting on my 43. My husband wants me to send it in. I am just enjoying the "what if" and the thrill of the hunt. I know why my Dad was so into his coins. Thanks for all the posts everyone. I will let y'all know what I deceide to do.
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 Posted 03/17/2012  5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
*yawn*
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 Posted 03/17/2012  5:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry Mez, but I can't share your excitement of "what if". Right now it's just fantasy.
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 Posted 03/17/2012  10:07 pm  Show Profile Check Maineman750's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you don't believe the best in the country ..you'll certainly never believe an unknown employee of a TPG anyway.
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