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1983-P Broadstruck Washington Quarter

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 Posted 08/11/2022  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! I thought it was a nice one too!
Does that mean that the collar is damaged or the planchet just isn't positioned probably resulting the error?
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 Posted 08/12/2022  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most likely, the collar failed to deploy correctly and that resulted in the broadstrike.

The reeding showing where the rims should have been look like collar clash. Both dies had made contact with the reeding of the collar and a small bit of the grooved design was transferred from the retaining collar to the dies. It wouldn't be seen on a normal strike, but the metal pushing out past the regular diameter allowed the small cuts at the die's edge to be transferred to the coin.

Coop has a really nice graphic of a collar clashed die. If he doesn't reply to this post, you may want to ask him about it.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@cap, from the CCF glossary:


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Broadstrike
Coin struck without a collar, thus when the coin is struck the metal is allowed to expand and increase in diameter. May be centered or uncentered, but must not have any missing lettering or design detail.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice example!
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 Posted 08/12/2022  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice pick-up...is this in a graded holder?...if so what is the grade?

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 Posted 08/12/2022  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, everyone for the advice and coin lessons! The grade was MS63, PCGS.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  09:13 am  Show Profile   Check Dearborn's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Looks like there was a bad collar clash on a previous strike, possibly damaging the collar - then on this strike the collar didn't deploy properly, creating this broad strike. then as the coin spread out the collar clash expanded and stretched with the strike.
can you post up a pic of the slab to read the label.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As others have said, this is a broadstrike. The obverse shows collar clash on the obverse (hammer) die. While the reverse shows a similar pattern of peripheral, radial grooves, collar clash on the anvil die is quite rare. So it's more likely that these radial grooves are from grazing contact with the upper margin of the collar's working face.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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the collar didn't deploy properly, creating this broad strike. then as the coin spread out the collar clash expanded and stretched with the strike

Thanks! That technical detail was what I was trying to figure out.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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can you post up a pic of the slab to read the label

Sure!
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 Posted 08/13/2022  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 08/14/2022  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Nice!!! Thanks! : )
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 Posted 08/14/2022  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Save these images for your personal files.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 08/14/2022  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Already did!!! &
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