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Large Cent - Can You Determine The Date?

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 Posted 10/05/2022  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Check CarrsCoins's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CarrsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it weighs 9.3 grams.
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 Posted 10/06/2022  05:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I need a lot of clues - this is hopeless for me.
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 Posted 10/06/2022  08:33 am  Show Profile   Check CarrsCoins's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CarrsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think this one is hopeless to almost everyone. Bob Grellman attributed the die variety from memory in less than a minute. if you know who he is that will help narrow down a date range.
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 Posted 10/06/2022  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it was a bust half I would figure the date and marriage

I'll take a guess: 1848, and it was defaced because it was used as a doorstop.
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 Posted 10/06/2022  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How about an 1846 N-19? No idea what happened to the obverse. Split planchet?
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 Posted 10/06/2022  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Split planchet?

I was thinking that was a possibility, but the weight is fairly close to an undamaged coin.
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 Posted 10/06/2022  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I'm on team split planchet, despite the fact that the other "half" would only weight a couple grams. My best guess on the date is mid 1850s.
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 Posted 10/07/2022  10:41 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the striations above the E in AMERICA are the tell.
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 Posted 10/07/2022  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Check CarrsCoins's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CarrsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you got it. 1846 N-19 with a lamination/split planchet. nice work guys. the tell is the lines above the E in AMERICA.
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 Posted 10/07/2022  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just curious here. WE know it's an 1846 N-19. Would the rev die marker be enough for NGC or PCGS to put the date on the slab? I'm not suggesting this SHOULD be slabbed (because I actually don't), but I'm just wondering if they would
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 Posted 10/07/2022  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glad to know the date on this one—just shows how much I still need to learn.
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 Posted 10/08/2022  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpeedDemonND to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
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 Posted 10/08/2022  02:17 am  Show Profile   Check CarrsCoins's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CarrsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think they would slab it...but I honestly dont know. ill ask my grader buddies next summer when I see them at the summer seminar.

this one would be a fun one to have in a holder.
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 Posted 10/08/2022  02:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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the tell is the lines above the E in AMERICA.

Awww that's what it is! I figured if someone was able to attribute this by memory, the coin most likely has a unique feature. I spent too long looking at this coin in class and couldn't find the feature. Thanks for the challenge!
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 Posted 10/08/2022  11:28 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This would be a great coin to have in a slab—a real head scratcher for many! Although I suspect you'd have to pay for variety attribution to do it.

This reminds me of my first CCF contest a few years ago where the challenge was to determine the date of coins based only on photos of the reverse. But none of those were as difficult as this one!

http://goccf.com/t/321563
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