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Machine Doubling Or Doubled Die? 2000 P Sacagawea

 
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 Posted 11/29/2021  9:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Yorick to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Try as I might, I can not rely on myself to distinguish these apart. What do you all think? I know I used a scope for the pics and they are pixelated, but I'm fairly certain there is enough detail to distinguish for someone knowledgeable on the subject.

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 Posted 11/29/2021  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your second picture definitely shows Machine Doubling here, but I am sure others are going to be wondering what the coin in question is.
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 Posted 11/29/2021  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could be MD, but when it is biased toward the rim on each letter, then I think DDD. Also, @yor can you please add the date and denomination of this coin to your title? Thx.
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 Posted 11/29/2021  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Edited to add date and denomination to title
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 Posted 11/30/2021  04:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need to filter your light source. Kinda looks like a photo of a microscope monitor screen.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Leaning toward DDD here rather than MD.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You could have both. But in order to call it MD/DDD we would need to see the bottom/side devices. Then you would see a direction if Machine Doubling. But if all the outer devices are showing the same movement towards the rim direction, then it is DDD. Either way it is not a premium/variety for the coin. Move on to the next coin.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please always include photos of the entire coin, both sides, in addition to your closeups. Thanks.
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 Posted 11/30/2021  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For anyone willing to indulge me further as I try to learn this, there are photos and thoughts. The phone camera pictures are not that great as there is near no daylight by time I am home from work right now and still dark when I leave in the morning. The pictures of the microscope screen are certainly less than ideal, I know this but it is the best I can manage to show what I am seeing and I think that there is enough detail to see that. So, without further rambling...




These next pictures are from the scope, I am willing accept MD on what I see here as things look like they may have "slid" as well I can see how the main devices look smaller than normal.







It is in the following pictures, also from the scope where I'm confused. I can see a full splitting of the serifs as well as the main devices appear further north to me compared to the date and motto which appear shifted to the west for the motto and east for the date.







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 Posted 12/01/2021  04:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your full coin pics are pretty good, just properly crop them before posting them. As to the pics of the monitor, I'll let other members chime in on that issue.
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 Posted 12/01/2021  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@John1, I just don't see them as being as clear as I might like. Should I crop in to right up agains the rim?
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 Posted 12/01/2021  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes,leave about an 1/8" to a 1/4" all around of the background. Also, most think that a 14% gray scale background works best.
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