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Color looks original to me in hand.....this one could be tough! What are your thoughts on the grade for this one?   Edited by RedRaider 01/18/2022 10:26 am
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Valued Member
United States
451 Posts |
Please state your question(s) clearly.
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Bedrock of the Community

United States
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Guessing this has been cleaned and is now toning back. Too much evident wear to exhibit original luster.
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Pillar of the Community
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Toning vs Wear can be difficult to differentiate. I'll get the ball rolling and call it wear, AU-58.
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Bedrock of the Community

United States
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All diamonds gone. Liberty bold but not sharp. I'll say VF-35, possibly EF-40 sharpness, but a details coin - cleaned.
Edited by Coinfrog 01/18/2022 11:09 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I think the color can be original. This just has a very weak strike.
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Pillar of the Community

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I'll blame the mushy/lack of details on some heavily worn dies. Color looks like it could be original. Can't tell if there is slight wear on the high points. I might be way off with AU58/MS62 and some tired dies. Interesting one.
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Okay.....I knew this one would be tough!
I personally grade this MS60RB. I can't go higher due to the unusually worn dies, but there are no marks to speak of. It definitely looks to be uncirculated though. The coin is much more red in hand and has the luster typically seen on mushy strikes.
This coin represents the most worn dies I have seen on anything I have in my collection. Kind of interesting.
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Bedrock of the Community

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Looking at this on a large screen, you guys may be right. This weak a strike is certainly a first for me.
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Pillar of the Community
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It was a first for me too. I have never seen such a mushy Indian Head cent. I have a 1857 FE that is similar, but not this noticeable. I don't know how a TPG would handle this coin. One quick glance and they put a EF details on it. A deeper look and it could go MS. Also, the top feather tips look like the dies were rusty. All kinds of issues going on here.
Edited by RedRaider 01/19/2022 09:34 am
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Valued Member
United States
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I would guess au-53
I've only been collecting for a couple years (2017). Favorite Coin's are Standing Liberty quarters, Working on my type set: "knowledge is power" -Thomas Jefferson
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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if color is correct MS62RB weak strike or worn dies. I think its the later
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like strike issues to me. MS-62RB.
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Pillar of the Community
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Well NGC posted some grades yesterday and this got an MS63RB, probably overgraded. Its a peculiar coin, one that is maybe deserving of the elusive MS60RB grade.
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Most unusual Indian for sure. Not sure I'd want to pay 63 money for it, but it's a kind of rarity in its own right.
Edited by Coinfrog 04/07/2022 09:55 am
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