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Unknown Chinese Yuan Coin (Id: Fake Chinese 5 Yuan)

 
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 Posted 03/04/2022  8:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add K01tage to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
My brother found this coin; and I've been trying to help him identify it. I've found things like it; but I haven't found this exact one anywhere. It's 45mm in diameter. I'm worried it might be counterfeit. Any help with this would be most appreciated.

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 Posted 03/04/2022  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@k01, first welcome to CCF. Second, can you please give us a weight on this piece plus tell us whether a magnet is attracted to it? Thx.
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 Posted 03/05/2022  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

This appears to be two different coins, top one is scanned and the bottom photo from a camera, from the looks of it I'm skeptical this is far from genuine of the obverse.

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 Posted 03/05/2022  05:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The huge size is what's tipped me off. It claims to be a "5 yaun" coin. China never issued 5 yuan coins at the time (which shouldn't surprise, as a 5 yuan silver coin would weigh 5 silver dollars, or about 130 grams!). It is a fantasy; technically not a "counterfeit", since genuine 5 yuan coins do not exist. But nevertheless, it isn't a real coin.
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 Posted 03/05/2022  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's probably a knock off of a 5 dollar coin listed in Bruce X#1291
Should be silver and it should not be difficult for the OP to determine the piece is probably not genuine.
I have one in my collection of fakes.
The genuine coin is:45.1mm, 32.25grams, has edge lettering, previous number X#1290
Should be year 2, there are modern strkings valued at $35 to $45.
UWC 6th ed. pg 141 as X#1291
Also listed in UWC 4th ed. pg 82 as X#1290
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 Posted 07/08/2022  05:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add K01tage to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for taking so long to reply; Spence. The coin weighs 0.9 ounces; or 26 grams. And yes; it is magnetic. It definitely has a silver coating though. I tested the thermal conductivity of it in my freezer. Really cool! Not sure of the core metal though. I did some more research; and this isn't a genuine coin. In fact; if a 5 yuan coin did exist; it would have been made from gold. And in reply to macmercury; I used different pictures of the two sides of the coin. I was trying to use a translation scanner app on the coin; but it didn't help me at all. So I used the best pictures of the coin that I had for posting on the site.
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Ok thx for following up us. Yes a fake for sure if magnetic.
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Has anyone else found the real coin listed in either the 4th or 6th editions of Unusual World Coins?
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 Posted 07/31/2022  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlfredG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it is fake, no 5 yuan coin was ever minted.
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 Posted 07/31/2022  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
it is fake, no 5 yuan coin was ever minted.

The piece is listed in the catalogs as previously posted.
The question still goes unanswered.
Apparently nobody has either of those two catalogs?
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