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1914-D Penny Something Bother Me

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 Posted 05/27/2022  5:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, here I will put the coin in discussion on grey background and 3 originals as PCGS show. I think it is an fake cent. Not sure what bother me but I feel is not the really one.

What it is your chime on.



PS: What I do like: the nose, the letters, the date digits, the mint and the eye of Lincoln
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 Posted 05/27/2022  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you give us a close-up of the date area?
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 Posted 05/27/2022  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The photo was provided to me like this. I will try to work on.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the 5 legit mint mark positions for this coin. Hard for me to tell from the picture you posted though.


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 Posted 05/27/2022  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The angle on your lighting is too low. I makes glare on the edges of the devices. Also need some diffusing of the light source. With the strength of the light it would probably take computer paper to remove the glare. The light should be more over the top of the devices. To low makes the height stand out more. (which is no help for what you are trying to show)
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 Posted 05/27/2022  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cointree to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What I see:

The D seems more centered between the 9 and 1 than on all the others.
The front, top of hair is flatter than the others.
Eye looks odd. No wrinkle/shadow coming down from where eye/nose connect. Eyelid is larger, line under eye is different.
Cheek/jaw bones are hard to distinguish (not sure about light angle compared to others).

Some of this could be wear &tear on the one in question or lighting angle.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Enlarging the original image, the D seems to dip slightly to the left. I don't see this in any of the genuine examples.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I do not have others photos. Is what I was give.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I can see something where the VDB shouldn't be. Can't tell for Sure.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks CUJOHN. In my opinion it is fake.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The front curl of the hair looks wrong for ODV-004 (1912-14). The bow tie looks wrong. This could be wear, but it looks wrong. @Coinfrog and @Cujohn already noted the slanted mm and mystery where the VDB would be on the 1918-later shoulder. It may be genuine, but there are too many red flags for comfort.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like already noted to many red flags. The nose I really do not like. So I will not go to spend 400 bucks for this one. Thanks everyone.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One glance and it's a total counterfeit. Stay clear !
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 Posted 05/27/2022  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks off to me also . letters are different , Lincoln looks like he's smiling . Not so on genuine 14-D . Nose ,lips and eyes look different from genuine 14-D's .

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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting analysis everyone, my little qualm is definitions again...

Counterfeit means the entire coin is fake, whereas,
Alteration means the coin is genuine, but messed with somehow.

So my vote is genuine (I see a woody cent here) but perhaps altered, but not 100% sure.
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 Posted 05/28/2022  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mrwhatisit. You are right, I never thought about it that way. I guess when I see a faked coin I just automatically call it counterfeit.
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