I went ahead and bought this 1884 S and it just arrived today. I had asked the forum in a previous post if it looked cleaned and most said not. I took some new pics this morning and I do not think it has been cleaned, at least not recently. So I'm happy so far.
Next, on to the grading. I paid pricing that would be reasonable for an upper end AU53 . If it grades 53 I break even and have a nice addition to the collection. If it grades AU55 or higher, I'm a happy camper.
I know my eyes at this time are stricken with hopeful optimism, but I think some TPG
's would even give it a low MS grade. But, even 58 would be great price wise.
The fields and most of the devices have what appear to be original mint satin surface, plus the bag marks. There is obviously softness in the hairlines above Anna's ear and a bit on the eagle's breast but I have seen plenty of Morgans that look quite similar, graded MS60-62 with the softness apparently being attributed to a weak strike.
Lastly, one of the reasons I wanted to buy it is because in the sellers photo I thought I saw doubling on the date and the stars to the left of the date. There are definitely raised "extra lines of metal" that rise at the top's of the 1 and the two 8's. The two stars that are furthest to the right ( on the left side of the date) also show raised metal or doubling.
As always, my apologies for the photo quality. I need to put the purchase of a new CAM
at the top of my priority list.
So, anyone want to join me in my fantasy and hope that I've found an 1884 S MS61 VAM