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1894 Morgan Up For Bid - Real?

 
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 Posted 06/30/2022  3:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here are images from an upcoming auction. The coin is listed as 1894-O. The reverse image doesn't show a mint mark. But, the reverse doesn't look correct for 1894-P. Do you think the images are mismatched, the coin could be 1894-P, or could it be a counterfeit? I'm confused. Thanks for your insights.



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 Posted 06/30/2022  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The example is not a 1894 as the date position does not match. The date position does match a 1894 O. My guess is that the seller has the wrong photo for reverse.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The horrible attempt at photoshopping the obverse in combination with overexposed bright pics would keep me far from even considering this one.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed with both comments so far. This seller isn't known for great photos (I think they scan the coins,) but their coins end up being fairly nice. I'm looking for varieties rather than gems, anyway.

I didn't look at the date position - good eye. I think there is only one die for the 1894. Plus, the reverse looks like the later, post-1899 version.

Thank you for your comments!
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 Posted 06/30/2022  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good call by Slider23.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good call Slider23.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
FREE opinion: Not a Philadelphia mint coin.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree this is likely a counterfeit. The reverse is a C4 reverse hub type with a wide gap between the eagle's neck and left wing, not used until 1900. Good catch, @Bump111 and @Slider23!
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 Posted 06/30/2022  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Agree this is likely a counterfeit.

Or perhaps a simple mistake on the sellers part.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any chance of a link to the listing?
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 Posted 06/30/2022  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Message the seller and let him know about the wrong reverse pic. He'll appreciate it.
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 Posted 06/30/2022  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Any chance of a link to the listing?


Here ya go:

https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-...d_5A74DFFBF9

I'll shoot them a message tomorrow to let them know about the error. Thanks, again everyone.
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 Posted 07/01/2022  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't see you said it was listed as an 1894-O. Makes it very likely that it's just a wrong reverse photo.
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 Posted 07/01/2022  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent the auction house a message about the errant reverse photo. I was kinda hoping for a counterfeit - there are various examples of contemporaries out there! But, this one looked a little too good.

Thanks for your comments.
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 Posted 07/01/2022  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the photos are accurate I'd suspect a sandwiched fake, but then they wouldn't advertise it as 1894-O.
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