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1897 Philly Morgan For Thoughts

 
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 Posted 08/13/2022  9:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hopefully the pics are ok.
This coin is certainly Prooflike to me.
To me I also believe it is Uncirculated .
My personal thought is it would grade MS-62



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08/14/2022 12:58 am
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 Posted 08/13/2022  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe even MS-63.
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 Posted 08/13/2022  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Odee13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm at ms60. Awesome coin.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  02:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HP2001PH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks really good. I would say MS-62.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  04:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tons of marks. No higher than MS61 for me.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Frosty...
I don't know if there is enough on all the devises to carry a PL...but she's pretty darn close.
MS-62PL
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 Posted 08/14/2022  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
based on the photos provided

luster is dull across all devices and fields for an MS coin

strike is a tad weak for the year

surface preservation shows staining at K4-K6 obv. there is a clear delineation line from K8-K4 obv and the same on the reverse indicating a possible old dip. light marks/scratches on both devices and fields on both sides.

eye appeal less than average

I'm at AU55 or MS62. based on the obv I'm leaning toward AU55

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 Posted 08/14/2022  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@panzaldi I do not think I did this one justice.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Photos indicate possible MS. Probably not PL.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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@panzaldi I do not think I did this one justice.


so are you saying the first obv photo is not really accurate as to what it looks like in Hand? if thats the case then how can we grade it with any accuracy at all? how does the luster look in hand on the obv?

i still have a problem with the delineation on both sides essentially pointing to a dip of the coin to that level. I cant explain how that could happen on both sides equally.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks MS-61 tops to me.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not think I captured the mirror on either side.
I do not see a dipped coin . Possibly in Acetone but surfaces are original.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smalldawg59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quite a reach for MS. The luster is broken on the cheek and just does not come thru. Looks to be rub on the high points. It is kinda PL, though. Dipped AU-58.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it does not really look rubbed in hand on the cheek though that is the spot I could see it making it AU-58
Does not look like wear angling it over white which usually makes rub stand out.
Coin was quick dipped in Acetone to make sure there was no residue .
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