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2022 D Wilma Mankiller Struck Through Obverse Reverse

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 Posted 08/15/2022  7:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add RW1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello all. I'm not sure what this is. Maybe string or some fibers. Whatever happened here it looks like it started on the obverse at the motto IGWT took out the mint mark wrapped around to the reverse straight through the portrait and flared out by her hair. Any info or comments appreciated. Thanks for any help






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 Posted 08/15/2022  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RW: To tell you this it is from Mint counting machine or bank counting machine I can not. The both machines are identical except the capacity. I saw some from 2020, 2021 and now your of 2022. Is happened when two coins are stuck together, so one past been roll by the roll. This roll make scratches.
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 Posted 08/15/2022  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RW1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Silviosi. It could be just damage but I'm thinking this happened when the coin was struck. No signs of metal movement that I can see but I could be wrong. I'm leaning towards it being an error but could be some weird damage
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 Posted 08/15/2022  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like some kind of post strike damage.
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 Posted 08/15/2022  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't see how that could happen when the coin was
struck, especially with the mm being obliterated.
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 Posted 08/15/2022  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coins have been found struck through buttons, wire, grease, plastic, tape, cloth, washers, sanding paper, other planchets, struck coins, foreign coins, fragments of other coins, springs, and numerous other things. It is a fascinating category of error coin collecting with lots of amazing coins within it. The collectibility is if the item or substance struck into the coin can be identified. Most of the time this is easy, but it can also be difficult since things struck into the coin have a habit of getting badly distorted by the strike. If it cannot be determined, it falls into the most basic and uninteresting description "struck through", which means that the coin was struck through something, but what is unknown. Its also possible to be post mint damage but its on both sides so that also is unusual. Thanks for posting.
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 Posted 08/15/2022  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@DATA: you are wright to say in time the coins was struck on different materials and you enumerate all or almost all possibilities. For 2022 strike it is impossible to be strike over different materials, except an part of the planchet from previous strike, and then the press stop. The modern presses are close, very well tide because the emollient come at 10 PSI pressure and is very liquid, with the solidification at 350 C deg., which will never could be rich.
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 Posted 08/15/2022  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RW1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks John1 and JimmyD. The area in question looks like the fiber may have had some gritty grease on it maybe. Both sides are different colors in the area in question. Doesn't look like a conventional scratch or any other well know damage like from a coin roller. I have a few others with the same anomaly

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 Posted 08/15/2022  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RW1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Datadragon and Silviosi. I think it's interesting so I wanted to see what others thought. Looks like a greasy string to me. I don't know
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 Posted 08/15/2022  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@RW: please look at the rims, they was push down like a pressure hit.
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 Posted 08/15/2022  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I have a few others with the same anomaly


Thats interesting, if so you could also post photos as possible which may help eventually in understanding what you have. Closer photos of the rim and edge may also help.
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 Posted 08/15/2022  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will look and put again the link of the modern coins strike film. And I promise this will be the fifth time and the last.

PS DATA, if you have or see some same or almost, for me mean it is in the counting machine at the Mint. Each batch of coins is 10000 so many, at the banks they put by bag, less coins (4000)
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 Posted 08/15/2022  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like someone has taken a die grinder with a thin cutoff wheel to it. You can see on the reverse rim where it got away from them from the U to the E.
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 Posted 08/15/2022  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As promise here the link to see the new press of the Mint. Forgot the feeder fingers and strike through grease. The third video will show you. we have to adapt to the modern era for those recent coins.

https://www.usmint.gov/learn/produc...n-production
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 Posted 08/15/2022  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks silviosi, I'll take a look to see any updates from others I've watched and when I visited in person.


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Once the press strikes the coins, they drop into either a bin or a tray. An inspector examines samples for errors. If they pass inspection, they move to packaging. If circulating coins don't meet certain standards, the batch goes to a machine called a waffler. The waffler bends the coins to form wavy lines before they're sent for recycling.


Apparently they still need to hire Inspector 12 from Hanes with all the issues people have reported

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 Posted 08/15/2022  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DATA, to day are just 5 peoples on all the line. The fifth it is the inspector and look at the video, they took one or maybe max 3 coins to see then open the gate. Is more on mass production then quality.
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