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2004-D LMC With Rim To Rim Crack On Obverse

 
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 Posted 09/25/2022  3:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mb560600 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this cent in pocket change and noticed the interesting die crack. I checked Cuds on Coins and there is no listing for a die crack such as this on the 2004-D LMC.
Would this be classified as a Bisecting Rim to Rim die crack?
Also, would you think it would be wise to attempt to remove the areas of dirt and stain on the obverse? If so, how?
Thanks for taking a look.















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 Posted 09/25/2022  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its weird how the surface staining and what could be a die crack seem to follow the same pathway. I'm not convinced you have a die crack, but am interested to hear what others think.
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 Posted 09/25/2022  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look like a bisecting RTR die crack.

I agree that it's odd about the staining following along the edge but I was able to see the raised metal of the die crack along the whole route. Where the die crack crosses the rim @K10 was giving me the most difficulty seeing but I finally spotted it.

An image of both edges of the coin might be helpful.
As well as a closeup of it in the shoulder area?
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Thanks Spence and Dearborn for weighing in. Additional photos appear to indicate that these are raised die cracks, not incuse scratches. Not sure what caused the staining and wonder if it is recommended to try to remove/restore.




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Thanks Petespockets55---you posted just seconds before I supplied the additional photos. I'll see if I can provide additional photos of the edges and the shoulder area.
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Here are edge photos of the shoulder, and the two areas of the rim where the die cracks begin. Any additional photos necessary?








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Thanks so much for the additional images.

Are my eyes playing tricks on me again or do both "cracks" continue down the edge of the coin?

Here's one of your images I've added arrows to show what I mean.


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Thanks for confirming the RTR, Dearborn. And thanks for your response Merclover about not cleaning.
So. with the staining along the edges, could this actually be considered a pre-cud? Or is the staining just an anomaly?
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Petespockets55---yes, that is one crack that continues onto the side of the coin. There is at least one other crack north of that which continues onto the side of the coin-- as you can see in the photo below.


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Hmmm....
Does a "crack" continue down both edges in line with the one on the obverse?
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Hmmm....
Does a "crack" continue down both edges in line with the one on the obverse?

Yes, Petespockets55. Actually, there are two small cracks emanating from the edges at both the K-10 and the K-4 areas. And then each of these 2 cracks merge into one bisecting crack.
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