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Two 1873 T$1 Trade Dollars

 
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 Posted 10/03/2022  10:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Two 1873 Trade dollars. Thoughts on grades? Thanks!

Coin 1:



Coin 2:

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 Posted 10/04/2022  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#1 looks like an original unc with minor marks, fingerprint stain, and small scattered spots. Nice frosty luster on the devices. MS-63 with nice eye appeal.

#2 shows rub and slight wear on the obverse. Reverse shows little or no wear. The dark haloes around stars and letters suggest an old dipping and subsequent retoning. Overall eye appeal is somewhat impaired. I'll venture AU-55 for detail but it could net-grade lower.
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 Posted 10/04/2022  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Jaobler's comments.
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 Posted 10/04/2022  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NS you know better than to post multiple coins in the same thread.

1. I agree coin looks MS however I'm at MS63 also

2. i'll go with AU53. too me the coin looks like it was a dug coin and cleaned up
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 Posted 10/05/2022  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin 1 MS-63, coin 2 AU-58.
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 Posted 10/05/2022  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your kind responses. These two coins are offered by a high end dealer which seems to have a monopoly on ugly rare coins. They sell the highest end coins from what I have seen. The firm is run by well known dealer Steve Contursi. What shocked me is the grade that PCGS gave these two coins. They were given equal gem grades and was wondering whether you thought there was a way to reconcile the grades looking at the coins. I guess grading is subjective, but this seems a bridge too far...




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 Posted 10/05/2022  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NS did you guys dirty!

I'm not gonna lie I've thought about posting these types of coins just to mess with the usual suspects.
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 Posted 10/06/2022  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure how I "did you guys dirty." Just thought it was interesting how far apart my grading was from PCGS's. From the looks of it, those who contributed grades here differed from PCGS just like I did. Sometimes I find PCGS grading bizarre and interesting.
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