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Date Query On Sultanate Of Jaunpar Tanka

 
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 Posted 02/02/2023  5:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all,

I have a Tanka coin that I think is dated 843. Problem is that would place the coin before the issue dates.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces131763.html

Can the experts please confirm this date?

Thanks


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 Posted 02/02/2023  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andyg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see a "5"?

This one is "855"
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=66478
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 Posted 02/02/2023  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Andy,

Now I'm totally confused. Have circled what I see as a definite 3 (preceded by what looks like a 4) yet that is a 5? Can you please let me know which numbering system is in use as I just can't make that work as a 5. Also included a non-close-up.
Thanks


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02/02/2023 7:00 pm
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 Posted 02/03/2023  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We just discussed this in the HFBCWG6 thread. TL/DR: the Jaunpur 5 looks exactly like a later 4, while their 4 is a characteristic phi-like shape (as opposed to the epsilon-like shape of the 5). So this coin is dated 853.

I couldn't see any references to this 5 shape anywhere online either. (EDIT: OK, here's one.)
We numismatists really need a good study of medieval Eastern Arabic numerals, the way there are plenty of for Western Arabic/European...
Edited by january1may
02/03/2023 01:26 am
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 Posted 02/03/2023  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andyg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry if I caused some confusion the coin I linked to is 855,

This one is 853
I have attempted to draw a 4 next to the below.

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02/03/2023 4:12 pm
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 Posted 02/03/2023  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks january1may and AndyG. I don't mind it so much when a completely different character is used for a number but it is confusing when a single character can represent 2 different numbers.
Edited by David Graham
02/03/2023 5:20 pm
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