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1968-D Cent -- Extremely Strange Doubling (And More!)

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 Posted 07/09/2018  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need better lit and in focus pics to be sure of what you have. As of now,looks PSD. No Feeder Finger Damage that I can see.Will wait for better pics
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 Posted 07/09/2018  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mr. Black, without clearer images that are closer it makes it difficult for any of us to help you better. The commentary does help but there is nothing like clear pics for us to see what you're seeing. I hope it's a one in a million cent but won't be able to give you an assessment until closer, clearer images are available.
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 Posted 07/09/2018  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Howard Black to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"As of now,looks PSD."

OK, you're the first! <g>

(Now tell me what kind of PSD can duplicate "UNUM"!)

PS: I added a third photo, to give an idea of just how severely cropped these are. When I am able to take some decent shots, I certainly will (soon, I hope, but things tend to go slowly for me, unlike when I was young and healthy).
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07/09/2018 6:23 pm
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 Posted 07/09/2018  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the UNUM is incused and appears backwards the it could have been a vise job.
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07/09/2018 6:24 pm
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 Posted 07/09/2018  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's not a Feeder Finger Damage, just a crimp...can tell by smashed rim on obverse by you on rim. Now that "unum2x" is indeed odd. Is it included or raised? Looks raised but yes, bad pic so a guess. If incused(inwards),that's a coin contact impression, if raised, IDK?...that would be die damage, but need better pix for assessment.
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 Posted 07/09/2018  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't worry about posting your questions here, we're here to help, just please remember that many people on here have many decades of experience with errors, some with specific expertise in Lincoln cent errors and varieties. It's very frustrating when someone comes on to the forum convinced that they have something special when in reality it's just another damaged coin, and when they hear the bad news, they dig in and refuse to believe it isn't an error. It happens much more often than you might think(usually daily).

As for your coin, I'm going to tell you what you dont want to hear, it does look like it's PMD. Error-ref.com is a great site to learn about the types of errors that are possible, heres their entry on Feeder Finger strike through's: http://www.error-ref.com/stk_thru_feeder_finger/ Looks quite different from yours correct? In almost every case of a strike through you aren't going to see the rim get misshapen and distended like your coin because the collar die holds everything in place. the only exception would be if it were struck through something large enough to block the collar die, but that would have a massive impact on the coin's shape as you can see from the link I provided.

Your second concern may be something, but we're going to need better pictures to determine what it could be, I can tell you it probably isn't a DDR, because something as dramatic as what you're describing and what I think I see would have been almost certainly already been discovered.
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07/09/2018 6:31 pm
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 Posted 07/09/2018  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Howard Black to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks just like its big brother, just not as tall (the main UNUM is nicely stamped -- its clone is faintly stamped,as if the die was given a little tap instead of a *blam* by the press).
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 Posted 07/09/2018  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Howard Black to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've already looked at their photos, but IIRC, the Mint switched to aluminum feeder fingers after this coin was minted, and depending on how the planchet slips/slides during insertion, the "oops" can result in a variety of artifacts, n'est-ce pas?
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 Posted 07/09/2018  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even still it would not have looked like this
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 Posted 07/09/2018  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Striking errors are very blatant and can be categorized. That is a PostStrikeDamage
http://www.error-ref.com/?s=feeder+error
http://www.error-ref.com/edge_strike/


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Below is a triple-struck nickel struck through the part of the Feeder Finger that cradles the planchet. The force of the impact nearly tore off the metal beneath it. It's tenuously connected to the rest of the coin at one end. The loose flap was telescoped beneath the main part of the coin, probably when the coin was encapsulated.




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07/09/2018 6:42 pm
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 Posted 07/09/2018  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still need some better pics. Try to take your new pics similar to the original picture of the obverse of the coin.
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07/09/2018 6:42 pm
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 Posted 07/09/2018  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Especially a close-up of the UNUM area.



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 Posted 07/09/2018  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All I see is Post Strike Damage, which means that it didn't happened at the Mint. It happened after it left the U.S. Mint. The metal has been pushed and flattened.
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 Posted 07/10/2018  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interested in seeing the UNUM clearly on the reverse. Currently to dark and grainy when I zoom in.

Maybe damage or maybe not. I'll hold that assessment until I can clearly see whats going on there. If it mimics UNUM exactly a few potential errors come to mind, but only one might fit here. Drop fillings do occur from time to time.

What I make out on the rim and edge seems to be PSD or occurred after strike and when some damage is known to be present, then its easy in some accounts to presume all is the case. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 07/10/2018  11:38 am  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I need better pics to tell if there is a doubled die here or not.

The coin is damaged with many dings on the reverse. It is discolored likely from environmental damage.
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