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... And that's a really attractive Riga dreigroschen of Sigismund III. In the 16th and 17th century, there was constant warfare in the eastern Baltic, first between Poland and the Teutonic Knights (early 16th), then Sweden (late 16th/early 17th), and eventually Russia. The Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth reigned over parts of Livonia from 1569 to 1629, when Sweden drove them out. So, we see coins minted in RIga under Polish authority during the reigns of Stefan Bathory (there is a 1586 Riga dreigroschen with his portrait earlier in the thread) and Sigismund III. We've continued the discussion of Polish coins starting with Sigismund III reign over here: http://goccf.com/t/332606 |
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He was the last Grand Master of the Teutonic Knights I want a title like that. From now on, my kids will no longer be calling me Dad.  But seriously, the history is very interesting and complicated. These are the type of people that effectively made history, and about which we read, but it makes you wonder what it was like for the commoners during all these wars and struggles. I would love to find a video that shows a map of the region and shows the borders shifting chronologically. I think that type of thing would be fascinating to see for various regions, but I've never found one.
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@Jadey Nice Lithuanian half-groat 1562, seventeenth Eagle on obverse, twenty-ninth Knight on reverse, 4SA114-29 by Ivanauskas, R in his book'2014.
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Nice Lithuanian half-groat 1562,  Your RIga trojak is Iger R.92.1.b (Obv legend ends in LI, dots after D and G instead of crosses.)
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Continuing to use this thread for new Poland/Lituania acquisitions pre-1586... This is a fairly common type issued by Sigismund II between 1545-66 that we've seen several times on this thread. Just received this auction win (still some luster in the fields, though my photo doesn't pick it up). 1551 polgrosz (1/2 groat) Kopicki 3243, Ivanauskas 4SA46-13:   |
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Reviving this thread again for a new pick-up. The coin I'll post also pertains to the thread on coins of West Prussia started by @oriole http://goccf.com/t/343460Poland 1584 solidus/schilling, Malbork mint first year of operation. During the reign of Stefan Batory (1576-86), two new crown mints were opened, in Olkusz (1580) and Malbork (1584). They would both operate for relatively short periods, closing in 1601. Additionally, coins were minted in Riga which for the first time bore the image of the Polish king (a few were posted upthread by @jadey). The reverse legend reads SOLIDVS TERRARVM PRVS or "schilling of Prussia." I think this type is the last one issued in Poland that refers to Prussia as the origin or location of use of the coin.   Edited by tdziemia
07/13/2019 09:06 am
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Hi Tdziema
Interesting piece. I have a new 16th century groz I'll post as soon as it's photographed. I got your reply on the FUN show.
Also I'm slowly fixing my website with CSS & javascript. I'm thinking of maybe some sort of interactive display showing Poland through the ages with a changing map, mints, and coins. Any suggestions?
Also for anyone here, I'll be at the FUN Show in Orlando today. Dealers have spurned all my requests for dinner as they're tired and I'm too small of a fish for invites. However if anyone here goes to the Orlando Show, email me.
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07/13/2019 10:30 am
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Here is mine one of the weirdest and nicest Kingdom of Poland coin:   I do not remember exact size, but it is at least 20 mm, maybe a little more. And weight is 0.23 gr. Coin is quite thin. It is really surprise how it survived. I was able to identify this coin. It is: http://sredniowiecze.wcn.pl/coins/143But I didn't find any other references or similar coins besides of it. |
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 Really a spectacular coin! I don't know this type, but coins from these two rulers are very difficult to find, and yours looks exceptional. Wow!
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I have an unique polish coin from the 11th century. Which is in gumowski. And not in any other reference known? Not any german books or other books appears this coin. But I am still looking for more references. As it appears to be only in black white paper. I am still discussing with some numismatics about this one. But as it is only be known in this book as far as I know and information Ive gotten. They have no other references to describe it 100% certain to poland. I think as the Herman I denar you see often in auction. It should be him. The portrait is more or less the same. And the style of the coin is identique. Mine is seen as 1021 and 1022 in the references of Gumowski. 1007 till 1020 you see often in auctions. But not mine    |
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Thanks for bumping the thread with that nice contribution.
I tried a quick search in the WCN archive and did not see an example of this coin. And the February Marciniak auction included a large collection (over 400) of unusual Polish medieval coins, and I did not see an example there either.
So I agree this must be quite an unusual coin!
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Bumping this thread to post a new acquisition. My photos didn't come out nearly as well as the auction house's, so I will use theirs. Poland coins from the 13th century are devilishly hard to to get. I had a gap in my OFER collection between the reign of Mieszko III (died 1202) and Wenceslas II of Bohemia who reigned concurrently as king of Poland 1300-1305. This was an era when there was no united Kingdom of Poland, just duchies (Wielkopolsa, Masovia, Kujawia, etc), and coinage of powerful bishops. SO, here is a denar of Iwo Odrowaz, bishop of Krakow 1218-1229. The description from various sources: Obv: Prince seated on throne facing right, holding banner SCS VENCESLAVS Rev: Bishop atop cathedral with dome and two towers SCS VENCESLAVS. Kopicki 232, Gum. 236.  |
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here is a denar of Iwo Odrowaz, bishop of Krakow 1218-1229. Very nice piece tdziemia. I should mention that the recent release of the ANA journal had a good article on Bractates. I don't know if this coin is one but apparantly the brachtates were often church issued coins as they had the resources or 'exemption' to strike coins when the state nor others couldn't or didn't for a variety of reasons. On Polish references, I've tried to get a copy of Gumowski as all I have is Arthur Majeski's book. However, they're always unavailable. Also I wanted to mention there is an article published about a recent find in Poland about a large hoard of some 1,700 or so well circulated silver Roman denarii from the 2nd century AD. The coins seem to run from Nerva (96-98 AD) to Septimus Severus 198-211 AD. After then the denarii become very debased silver. I'll look for a link to the article if desired. link to article:
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04/05/2020 6:59 pm
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Looks like link is expired...
Denar. Zygmunt I Stary 1506-1548 (Monety Koronne). R3
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