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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition!

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 Posted 09/26/2020  03:38 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1771 British halfpenny:
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1771 -- Kingdom of Denmark, 1 skilling:



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1771 -- Siberian Governate, 2 kopeks:



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Fantastic coin. I had guessed those critters were foxes, but Numista says sables.
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Fantastic coin. I had guessed those critters were foxes, but Numista says sables.


I always thought they were just dogs.
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They are in fact sables!

It is a reference to the fur trade, and the prized furs from Siberia...and also a not-so-subtle reference to the reason Russia wanted to conquer and annex Siberia in the first place.

Here is a 1771-dated evasion halfpenny from Britain.

Prior to the King's imposition of harsh penalties on forgers, the counterfeit (imitation) halfpennies had mostly the same legends as their regal counterparts.

After the Royal Act which made counterfeiting punishable by death (!) the counterfeiters could no longer directly copy the same legends, so they had to get creative -- they had to look reasonably close, not too hard with high rates of illiteracy, but that left a wide margin to work with...

This is a common evasion type: it has GREGORY III PON / BRITAIN RULES instead of GEORGIVS III REX / BRITANNIA as expected. The 1771 date is a farce; this coin would have been struck in the late 1770s or early 1780s in my opinion. Later evasion issues often have 1780s dates just to make absolutely sure no one could confuse them with a regal halfpenny, the striking of which had ended in 1775.

(Pope Gregory III died in 741, so the most likely reason for using his name in the legend was the close-enough resemblance to the real King's name.)


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Here is a nice 1771 IC-SK 20 Kreuzer from Austria (Vienna mint), with Maria Theresa as Empress.

20 Kreuzer = 1/3 Gulden


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1770 -- Republic of United Netherlands / Holland, 2 stuiver:



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1770 -- Free City of Regensburg, 1 heller:



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Loving the history!

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Pope Gregory III died in 741 ...
A millenial commemorative then?

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Here is a nice 1771 IC-SK 20 Kreuzer from Austria (Vienna mint), with Maria Theresa

She was nearly invisible on that 1772 posted the day before! (I guess we will see more of her for a few more weeks)

Poland 1770 8 Groschen (= 2 zloty; 40 to a Cologne mark). Stanislaus may also be starting to vanish.

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Here is a brother to one of @pep's coins for today:


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1769 -- Russian Empire, 5 kopeks:



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1769 -- County of Gorizia, 1 soldo:



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