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1935 S Texas Commemorative Half...worth Grading? Opinions Please...

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 Posted 10/21/2020  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WeBeRolling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Criticizing folks who tried to help you is not, IMO, the best approach.

Grading coins from images can be very difficult due to lighting variations and camera angles. Picking up on cleanings can also be difficult.


Commems forgive my wording, I am not disappointed by the opinions I was given on here, nor have I ever been disappointed with any knowledge openly shared with me on this forum. I am disappointed in what it is coming back SLABBED at. Typically the opinions I get on here are spot on and I take them with all enthusiasm. I have not been into coins or collecting for long and much of what I have learned has come from the fine folks on here. I meant no disrespect to anyone who has shared there opinion with me about my posts from Pennies to Morgan's to Commemoratives. Again I apologize for the wording and I should've been more specific to say I am disappointed by the result from NGC and wish I had more of an explanation from them. Thank you all for your input.
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 Posted 10/21/2020  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@WeBeRolling: Thanks for the clarification - glad to hear it!

CCF is a great place to come with numismatic questions and to ask for help. I hope you continue to share your collecting experiences with all of us! Best of luck going forward.



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 Posted 10/21/2020  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is very difficult, if not impossible, to grade coins and determine if they have been cleaned by looking at pictures.

The grading service has the luxury of having the coin in-hand. That is a huge advantage!

Chances are this was not your coin's 1st trip to a grading service.
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 Posted 10/21/2020  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WeBeRolling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Commems I will definitely continue to share my finds, thanks again for the input and sorry for the misunderstanding (my wife says writing is not my strong point) lol.

westernsky you're probably right I looked a little more into the seller where I acquired it and seems to have a lot of Commemorative half dollars so I'm sure he knew what he had, but I got it for a fair price so I'm not upset. Just should've saved my money and kept for my collection...once again lesson learned lol.

Thanks again everyone! I am learning that I should not buy based on "grade" unless SLABBED because everyone has their own opinion and don't go on grade unless it's in hand I now understand!
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 Posted 10/21/2020  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wyzeguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@WeBeRolling- just curious, did NGC still slab but label as having been cleaned or was it returned as you sent it?
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. Thanks again everyone! I am learning that I should not buy based on "grade" unless SLABBED because everyone has their own opinion and don't go on grade unless it's in hand I now understand!


Actually it's far better to learn how to grade for yourself and how to spot these issues on your own. The TPG slabbers have shown that their own opinions aren't as consistent as they'd like the market to believe, I've seen coins that were cleaned much more harshly than the one you posted that DID get straight graded.
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 Posted 10/21/2020  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's difficult to spot cleaning with 2D images if it is not harshly cleaned, there just not enough detail to quality check without the physical coin itself.

This is a learning curve that every collector must go through.

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 Posted 10/22/2020  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WeBeRolling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wyzeguy they definitely put it in a coffin for me! I think that's upsetting I would've rather had there opinion and my coin in my own holder to keep rather than this...



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 Posted 10/22/2020  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wyzeguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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wyzeguy they definitely put it in a coffin for me! I think that's upsetting I would've rather had there opinion and my coin in my own holder to keep rather than this...


Thanks for sharing the pic. Still a very nice coin with a cool design though I understand your frustration with the end result.

I picked up a couple modern commemorative rounds with the same design at a coin show bout a year ago not knowing it was based off an actual coin.
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 Posted 10/22/2020  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That coin coffin can be easily opened with a hammer! (Thankfully!)

"Please release me, let me go.... I don't love you anymore" (The slab anyway!)
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 Posted 10/22/2020  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WeBeRolling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks wyzeguy! I do very much like the design.

Lol westernsky funny you say that because I've been searching posts and watching "how to" videos on releasing the kraken hahaha
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I've been searching posts and watching "how to" videos on releasing the kraken hahaha
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 Posted 10/23/2020  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add freddo30 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are pronounced hairlines in the 4:00 area of pics 1-2, the high points and especially affected areas display a different type of surface sheen and color where original luster was lost and a more recent beginning to the toning process. This may be caused by improper cleaning or wiping. Often the odd relief and die preparation techniques of the various Texas issues produce different appearances depending upon storage/handling, but this is a case of harsh surface abrasion produced by rubbing, brushing, or wiping. Old timers here will recall the various 'treated coin cloths', wire brushes, nic-a-lene, etc. that damaged so many coins in the name of preservation. I apologize for missing the post until now and would have expressed my analysis sooner even though I often get 'verbally beat up' if I don't follow the general or desired opinion. You can listen to the expert poster 'commems' with confidence ; he has added a reply here as well.
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 Posted 10/23/2020  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I break em out of the slab by placing the edge of the slab in a groove in the sidewalk and then use a hammer to crack the slab. Once it's cracked I just keep tapping the slab till it separates.

It works for me.
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 Posted 10/23/2020  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wyzeguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I'd keep it in the slab, at least for a while. I think it'd make a good conversation/educational/reminder piece.
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