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Three Latest Pottery Pickups

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 Posted 09/25/2021  05:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a sweet looking example Bob ....

I love the simplistic form and strong black colouring.

Bob am I right in thinking these black pieces were made from Black Basalt?...This rock seems to be abundant along the Greek coastline...
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 Posted 09/25/2021  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for commenting, Paul. The lamp was formed in a red clay, visible in the chipped areas. The black glaze was painted on, or sometimes wares were dipped in it. I'm no potter, and don't know about the ingredients that provided the pigmentation to the glaze/slip.in this case there was also some white paint/slip used. Short Wiki entry about Greek black glazed ware:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-glazed_Ware
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 Posted 09/25/2021  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent addition to your collection, It remarkable to see that the paint has lasted as well as it has.
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 Posted 09/25/2021  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Ron. Yes, it's held up exceptionally well. The only other oil lamp I own is also a Greek black-glazed specimen, but environmental conditions took a toll on that one. The original glaze is mostly chipped off, and what remains is oxidized:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/g...Oil_Lamp.jpg
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 Posted 09/27/2021  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations. What a very attractive oil lamp, Bob. Another super addition to the collection. As with other pieces in your collection, not only the body, but the colour has stood the test of time.

I doubt if the black finish would have looked much different when it was first created over two thousand years ago. Superb craftsmanship.
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 Posted 09/27/2021  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Jim.
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 Posted 09/30/2021  01:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spyros to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful piece!
Here are some similar ones found in a late 4th century burial in Pylos. Notice the small "ear", it's called "ΩΤΙΟ" in greek.
Typical of 425-400 BCE

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 Posted 09/30/2021  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great info. Thanks, Spyros - and welcome to CCF.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
UPS delivered a box of goodies today. These were recent auction wins, including a nice Marlik spearhead and a number of pottery pieces: several small Greek vessels, some interesting sherds, and one Amlash pot of the bird-beak variety I mentioned earlier in this thread.

It'll be some time before I can get things documented for my Forum galleries. However, here's one little (less than 2" across) red-figure sherd, c. 5th century BC, that was easy to get a quick pic of. From a Connecticut private collection. I think it's interesting. The figure seems winged - maybe Nike? As a painter myself, it's nice to own an example - modest though it may be - of ancient figurative painting.

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 Posted 10/29/2021  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two more from among recent auction wins.


Olpe
c. 4th century BC
Magna Graecia
86.4 mm (w) x 81.3 mm (h)
(3.4" x 3.2")
Description:
Blackware, some chips, repaired from sherds.
Ex-Douglas Haner Collection, acquired in the 1960s.

And my second "bird beak spout" vessel from ancient Iran. This one has some quirky "adorno" (relief decoration) below the handle:


Vessel/Pot
Amlash (NW Iran)
c. 1000 BC
18.4 cm (w) x 13.3 cm (h)
(7 " x 5 ")
Description:
Large, round body, "bird beak spout" with open channel projecting from one side of rim, small loop handle, adorno below handle (Bull or ram's head? Bird in flight?).
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 Posted 10/29/2021  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool pieces Bob, I like the black glaze on the small pot. They really knew what they were doing back than.
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 Posted 10/30/2021  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with the above.

Thanks for sharing your latest acquisitions, Bob. You are building a very impressive collection.
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 Posted 10/30/2021  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, fellows. Appreciate the comments.
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 Posted 11/01/2021  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice looking examples Bob!...
I notice this second bird beak spout type is a great deal smaller than your first purchase, amazing detail for such a small piece and must say I find the pouring system/design quite simplistic but beautiful!!....
Bob on page 3 of this thread you've posted some photos of museum examples and there seems to be 2 distinct types? Both your specimens show the open channel connected back to the top rim and there are photos of another type where the spout is floating and looks much more fragile..... I suppose this connection of the open channel back to the main body gives a great deal more strength to the bird beak spout, just wondering if these design differences are from a different time period or culture?

ps...Looking forward to seeing some of those beautifully painted shards.
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 Posted 11/01/2021  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Paul.

I am not sure if the two general varieties of bird-beak spout pots that you describe were contemporaneous, or whether the ones sporting more literal avian features were perhaps earlier. Both types are often dated quite roughly to spans within the late Bronze Age through Iron Age II in Iran - meaning mid-2nd millennium BC through about 800 BC. Perhaps there is a source for good info and more specific dating on these but, if so, I haven't seen it.
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