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Kiwi Coin Noodling, A Good Laugh And Analysis

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 Posted 10/29/2020  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Overall results.

Total coins analysed - 524
Face value in NZ$ 411.20

Made up of

$2 - 107 coins = $214
$1 - 114 coins = $114
50c - 101 coins = $50.50
20c - 125 coins = $25.00
10c - 77 coins = $7.70

Earliest dated coins - 1990 ($1 and $2), 2006 (10, 20 and 50c)
Latest dated coins - 2016 (10c), 2018 (50c), 2019 (20c, $1 and $2).

Rarest years - 1997 (1 coin $2), 2018 (1 coin 50c)
Commonest year - 2006 (43 x 20c, 49 x 50c)

Total non circulating dates found = 0
Total special coins = 0
Total key dates = 6 coins (1 x $2 1997 and 5 x 2014 Wide dates).

Comments

10c - Mostly in decent condition, over prevalence of 2006 dated coins, but several later dates in a high grade. Number in sample fairly low compared to others.

20c - Most coins in very nice condition (EF/AU) and several uncirculated, nearly 2/3 were from 2006 and 2008 and a good mix of later dates with an unexpected 2019 coin found.

50c - Least mixed coin of the lot, nearly half were from 2006 and only 5 other dates encountered with only 2 of them over 5 coins, a 2018 coin was a nice surprise. On the plus side most of these coins were AU or UNC and by far the best preserved of all the denominations.

$1 - A very interesting mix with a high number of 1990 and 1991 dated coins along with 2015 ones. Most coins before 2011 were very worn and some 1990 dated and early 2000s coins were not even fine! These coins are overall the most seen in every day use and do the most work I feel.

$2 - The most worn coin overall (The $1 comes close), every coin before 2005 was VF or worse with many high VG and bare Fine examples, the 1990 and 91 dated coins were most seen along with the latest ones, although like the $1 2019 coins were pretty rare. It was a nice surprise to find a 1997 despite it being only Fine. 1999 and 2001 are also seldom seen dates.

I met most of the goals except finding a special coin (A set coin or a proof) and coins from a year with set only coins. I did find all the key dates (1997 and 2014 Wide date 20c), also I managed to pluck out the best examples for myself and my swap buddies.

This was what I expected basically.

If I do another noodle in the future, will add it to this thread.

Thanks for reading.
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 Posted 10/29/2020  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed, well done, and looking forward to a future analysis!
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 Posted 10/29/2020  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As always a good in depth and informative post. Thanks.
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 Posted 11/24/2020  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
3 main reasons.

1. Coins other than the $1 and $2 are so worthless and you can't buy anything with them. Plus they are small and fiddly now (None over 27mm in size).

2. EFTPOS a debit card system is universal here in New Zealand and every transaction is paid for by swiping and now "Pay wave" facilities - add to this things like Bus Fares and other things need cash are done on pre paid storage cards or Eftpos, all banks make it free now and even ATM withdrawls are universal for all banks and free for Debit cards (Credit card cash adavances will always attract charges).

3. Covid 19 saw a hysteria against merchants handling cash, particularly coins - which have a stigma of the poor and homeless given their lack of worth. Even now some stores (Illegally) refuse cash, one petrol station had a sign saying "Please declare if you are paying by NON ELECTRONIC means" and it turned out they were diinfecting the coins - bear in mind NZ has one of the lowest Covid infection rates on the world and we are on our lowest alert level, which is life as normal with a restricted border only.
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 Posted 12/28/2020  05:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hilarious 1992 coin noodling.

The obsession with me noodling coins in change goes back far further that a few months. A clean I found an incidental notebook from my teens in which I kept notes, diary bits and nonsense (Like Ice T written in funny letters).

In 1992 aged 16 and in Form 5 (Our equivalent of 10th grade or High School sophomore) I decided noodling 5 cent coins would be fun. I had to buy them from the bank then and had very little money living in the country.

A diary entry reads

"September 5 1992 - Today I got more 5 cent pieces, I have now 442 ($22.10) worth. Everyone knows but Mum would go wacko if she knew I had that many, pocket money is for saving and buying lunch at school not collecting junk coins. I watched some Simpsons on TV, it was a repeat, everything on TV is a repeat, I think I will watch some videos I got from the fish and chip shop"

My handwriting was very neat then. There were 6 tallies of the 5 cent pieces I collected at the time.

Why 5 cent pieces - In 1992 they were the lowest value coin and my pocket money was $20 a fortnight which paid for everything - no cellphones or internet back then, well there was but not for working class teenagers.

Why September - It was the school holdiays, I could catch the bus into downtown Christchurch and spend all my saved pocket money and daffodil picking earnings on coins, stamps and 5 cent pieces.

The list when I had the most - $31.10.
At the time, the latest coin issued was 1989, no more were issued until 1994.

Australian - 21 (coins)
Predecimal - 4 (Pre 1965 circulated, they were 1965 x 2, 1964 and 1948, all cupronickel)
1967 - 29
1969 - 11
1970 - 14
1971 - 19
1972 - 23
1973 - 5 (A scarce year even then)
1974 - 29
1975 - 43
1978 - 34
1980 - 17
1981 - 40
1982 - 113 (This was the biggest year even then with the late 80s ones)
1985 - 24
1986 - 43
1987 - 97 (Another huge year)
1988 - 23
1989 - 33
Total - 622 ($31.10)

This would not be much different 14 years later, except 1994 - 2003 coins would make up around 25%.

Australian 5c, 10c and 20c circulated and were basically accepted at the same rate, as my results show - 3 - 5 % of all the 5c, 10c and 20c in use were these coins.

Predecimal coins were always 6d, 1/- and 2/- which circulated as 5c, 10c, and 20c. 99.9% were cupronickel from 1947 or later and over half were 1965 in date as I recall, here with 5 cent, the coins were sixpences. Even then I found one in change, I kept it no matter how nasty it was.

Of course the change in 2006 saw the end of Australian and Predecimal coins in change.

Hope you all found this fascinating.
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12/28/2020 09:06 am
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Just for fun, I put the old demonetized NZ large size 20 Cents, 10 Cents and 5 Cents coins back into re circulation in Australia. Often they may be rejected. To avoid this, I present them obverse side up. Same for Pacific Islands and old British coins of the same size.

All of this tomfoolery will have to stop when the module size for Australian coins is reduced, just as in NZ back in 2006.

I noodled an almost complete set of U.S. States Quarters when I visited SD a few years ago.
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 Posted 12/28/2020  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Fascinating and hilaroius at the same time
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Just bought a roll each of 10c, 20c, 50c today and in the 10c roll are 3 shiny 10 cent pieces! The first I have seen dated 2019! One each for me, Triggersmob and Ralf!
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Thank you.
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I just found 2 more, actually with some wear. The roll of 50 coins had

2006 - 13
2009 - 2
2011 - 6
2012 - 2
2013 - 2
2014 - 3
2015 - 9
2016 - 8
2019 - 5

The 25 x 20 cent coins had 2 wide date 2014s in it, so I knew it was a good roll

The 50 cent roll had all the dates, 2018, 2016, 2015, 2014 and 2009/06 in it. I mainly brought them as Ralf has been giving me very nice Polymer 5 Euro climate coins and has requested the NZ 10c/50c and he's getting them.

Loving Halfcrowns. British and Commonwealth coins 1750 - 1950 and anything Kiwi.
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Nice haul there Princetane.
Shame there was no 2019 50C though. :(


Cheers

Steve :)
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One each for me, Triggersmob and Ralf!


Thank You



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and has requested the NZ 10c/50c and he's getting them


Again, Thank you very much

Some good news at the end of a very tough year.
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