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Pillar of the Community

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Wow Earle42. Great post. Big Fred's post was also very good. It really makes you sit back in your chair and think. 
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United States
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Thank you for all of the replies. This reminds me of the industry I have been on for over 20+ years. The diamond industry. I have been a diamond grader/QA gemologist at the 'best' lab and it's the same exact thing..... It is an opinion and then it is verified by other graders and if 2 agree on the grades given, that's the grade it gets, for better or for worse.
So I appreciate the insight.
It's just funny to see a $30 common coin sell from $100-$900 just based on the grade given, that's why I asked. Again, the same as the diamond industry......
I'll send it in to see what happens as I do not see any marks or dents, but this is not my expertise.
Thank you,
David
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United States
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Very informative and kind remembrance!
Great information and thoughts. I cannot hear it often enough, Buy the Coin, Not the Slab.
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United States
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Quote: I'll send it in to see what happens as I do not see any marks or dents, but this is not my expertise. Good luck! 
Everything can change in just one day......... Best Lincoln roll find & Nicest WOODY find "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." - Will Rogers
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Let us know how it grades!!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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"Fractureless Slab". Love it. 
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the 1986 S proof silver eagle, there's about 9000 graded PR70 DCAM by PCGS alone. They sell for around $300 ($200-$400 on ebay sold search) . if it's PR69 DCAM it's selling for like $60. Up to you of course, but it's not the "jackpot" as with MS silver eagles from 1986 which would be like $1150 in MS70 or so. toning doesn't affect the grade unless it's terminal or hiding something under it which would detract from the grade.
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United States
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I see plenty from $800+ that have sold on ebay. Some have the brown or green label or some of the other 'special' characteristics, but a lot of them without that have sold for around these amounts. Not sure why a regular one would sell for $300, when some are fetching at least double. Unless those 'sold' prices are bogus oon Ebay?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Of course the decision is up to you. Your chances are far better than hitting PowerBall. For whatever that is worth. Let us know what you decide to do!
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Pillar of the Community
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"I see plenty from $800+ that have sold on ebay. Some have the brown or green label or some of the other 'special' characteristics, but a lot of them without that have sold for around these amounts. Not sure why a regular one would sell for $300, when some are fetching at least double. Unless those 'sold' prices are bogus oon Ebay?" Not bogus, this is something to do with specialty labeling and signatures and them having different population numbers in that labeling format. if you are into that sort of thing as a collector. the standard Blue PCGS Label, PR70DCAM $200-$400 normally, average of $300 but depends on how many are for sale at the time. And anyone making crazy money on and item ebay with 0-5 feedback and like tons of bids is likly bidding on his own listings using a strawman account or something to push the price up. So there is that factor also on some of them. it's mostly the fancy labels though.
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United States
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Cool. Thank you for the information. I have no clue about the labels and signatures, I guess I need to research that.
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The labels are just another marketing strategy. Different labels have created a way that the same coin can be sold to someone who already had it b/c the packaging is different. Some people like to collect by label as well. I actually am surprised they don;t have different color plastics for the slabs as well as making annual different colored inserts in the slabs. ...give them time. Personally I am more concerned about the coin than what a company packaged it in, but there are some who collect the coin+packaging...it gives them a good way of owning more of the same thing, but technically be able to justify it to the wife as being a different thing! 
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Virgin Islands (U.S.)
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Y'know it's pretty funny how a coin can come off the Mint line right after being pressed doesn't grade in at MS-70. But it shows how many things during the minting process can gum things up and give us an MS-69. But even there, what a lot of people don't realize is basically, rounds like ASEs are created for bullion/melt value and for speculator/collectors like us to fawn and debate over.
IMO, if an ASE in MS-70 is something on the bucket list, buy one already grade and slabbed, letting the seller absorb the cost for that instead of you. But even there, even an MS-70's true worth is its melt value.
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Quote: ...but technically be able to justify it to the wife as being a different thing! Lol. I think you're onto something there. 
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United States
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NGC has NCS conservation available. They could probably take care of that toning easily. But that adds to the cost and it's on the lower value coin.
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