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The Most Absurdly Toned Clad Coin I Own - 1973 Rosie Dime PCGS MS-65

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 Posted 04/19/2021  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grape you are funny!!1 I like . Why are you confused? It is true what I say. It is a reality.
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 Posted 04/19/2021  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
silviosi, don't take this the wrong way, but have you heard about the program grammarly? It's really, really, really hard to understand what you're trying to convey.

I'll try to explain what I mean.



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I also ask the TPG's why they do not vacuum the slabs?


What does "vacuum" mean? Slabs are sonically sealed, so while they are not air tight, nor are they vacuum sealed (if that's what you're implying).


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The answer is to costly, hihihihi.


I think what you're trying to say is that they said it cost too much to do. Which if you're talking about vacuum sealing slabs it would be.


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all the electronics parts come vacuum for a 5 cent sell part and it is not costly but a 30 $ evaluation is to less to has a vacuum slab.


I have literally, no clue what you're saying. The only thing I might understand is that you're saying you think a vacuum sealed slab should be standard if you're paying $30?


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My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
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 Posted 04/20/2021  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At this price level, not spending money on the slab would have been cheaper, and with no change in the grade. A tight fitting capsule would have cost no more than $1. A capsule would have been a bit more coin-like tactile, and still possible to put it in a 20 pocket album page.
Slabs and capsules both made out of hard clear acrylic plastic.
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 Posted 04/20/2021  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I also ask the TPG's why they do not vacuum the slabs?
Because the TPG slab does not have a perfect seal, so the air outside the slab will eventually find its way in.

Horror vacui.
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 Posted 04/20/2021  11:21 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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not spending money on the slab would have been cheaper, and with no change in the grade


Probably, but my goal was to have a slabbed type set, so spending a bit isn't a huge turnoff. Coin is still worth north of $180 I'd wager.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 04/20/2021  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add suipakpaikungfu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see why they would AT it. Ya just gotta believe in the coin!
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 Posted 04/20/2021  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool. The outer cladding is copper-nickel, correct? The type of toning is similar when copper-nickel and even pure nickel coins are subjected to either water or high humidity.

Case in point - you can get some pretty wild toning with the first year (1982) the Royal Canadian Mint switched their 5-cents from pure nickel to copper-nickel. This one is from a proof set.


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 Posted 04/20/2021  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll hand it to PCGS, toning is darn hard to photograph - their photographers seem to do it extremely well. The eye-appeal in that dime you shared is fantastic.
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 Posted 04/20/2021  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Case in point - you can get some pretty wild toning with the first year (1982) the Royal Canadian Mint switched their 5-cents from pure nickel to copper-nickel. This one is from a proof set.
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 Posted 04/25/2021  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ Grape Collect,

Late 4 days? Sorry have to do some reports. I will explain you with my incorrect grammar. the English is my last of 5 I learn and still learn.

Why I say wacuum?
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Vacuum, space in which there is no matter or in which the pressure is so low that any particles in the space do not affect any processes being carried on there. It is a condition well below normal atmospheric pressure and is measured in units of pressure (the pascal). A vacuum can be created by removing air from a space using a vacuum pump or by reducing the pressure using a fast flow of fluid, as in Bernoulli's principle.


In the case of toning a vacuum will be the best. Also on all slabs if will be vacuum the coins will not oxide inside.

https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/560383

Look the video and you will understand. And for your knowledge: I work with the all 4 major TPG's even I have contradictions on the way the industry is going.
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 Posted 04/25/2021  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And to answer, to the toning with out have on hand: I do not thing it is a natural toning. I will disappoint someone? maybe. The natural toning will attack the highs of the letters and the rim last.

Is very nice toning. I do not see the yellow first, which it is the first spectrum color.
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 Posted 04/25/2021  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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the English is my last of 5 I learn and still learn.


Well I can admire your dedication to language. I've learned (and forgotten) a total of 4, so you've got me beat.


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Look the video and you will understand.


I actually linked that same exact video on the first page.


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I work with the all 4 major TPG's even I have contradictions on the way the industry is going.


Well, I can't say I work with a fourth, but I do work with PCGS, NGC and ANACS. If you know him, I just recently spoke with Miles Standish regarding some... interesting coins...


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In the case of toning a vacuum will be the best. Also on all slabs if will be vacuum the coins will not oxide inside.


Okay, so you're saying vacuum sealing would be best since there would be no contaminants to oxidize with the surface of the coins. Got it. Yeah that would be nice in an ideal world, though is less feasible.


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I do not thing it is a natural toning. I will disappoint someone? maybe. The natural toning will attack the highs of the letters and the rim last.


Categorically wrong. The rims often tone FIRST. Look at American silver eagles. Many, many have blast white surfaces but rainbow toned edges and rims.


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I do not see the yellow first, which it is the first spectrum color.


I do...


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I'll hand it to PCGS, toning is darn hard to photograph - their photographers seem to do it extremely well. The eye-appeal in that dime you shared is fantastic.


I couldn't agree more. Especially on this coin. Granted, I have 0 photography ability so anything is better than me!
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 04/25/2021  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I meet Miles a few times. Very open mind. but business is business you know. Sorry for my pushover and not see your link. So you are in the same boat. Good to know, hope to see you at the first ANA to come. Your are wright PCGS and ANACS do fantastic photos. NCG less. IC use with me electronics.

You see the yellow because you have the coin, me on the screen I do not see, sorry.

Send for cert, and if it is correct, Bob I thing still be with them, you has a 1.5-2K coin.
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 Posted 04/25/2021  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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You see the yellow because you have the coin, me on the screen I do not see, sorry.


No worries.


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Send for cert, and if it is correct, Bob I thing still be with them, you has a 1.5-2K coin.


It's already holdered by PCGS. I could ask Bob to take a look at it, though I've never really spoken with Bob before and I personally feel it may be slightly rude to ask him to do so, though I don't know him, so he may be okay with something like that.


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Good to know, hope to see you at the first ANA to come.


Well I certainly plan to be at the 2022 Summer Seminar. I will likely also be in attendance at the world's fair of money in Chicago later this year and will 100% be in attendance at any Whitman Baltimore shows as those are fairly local.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 04/25/2021  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chicago and ANA is 100% to be their. Baltimore I am not sure. I am in Canada and we still have very strict constrain for travel. At ANA I promise to present Bob to you. Sorry I do not do recommendations by phone or mail.
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