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1888/7 Indian Head Cent

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 Posted 09/11/2021  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brown12-B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't. That's as good as I can get it. I used my friends phone because mine is terrible. Then sent it to mine and cropped it.
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 Posted 09/11/2021  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add examiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With the condition of the coin, it's impossible to see a 7 in these photos. You have PMD, and possibly MD or DDD in the date. In photo 2, the anomaly appears to be on top of the 8, unless it's just the glare.
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 Posted 09/11/2021  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

An image from my files on this die. But is there something coating your coin? Or is this what is left from an a cleaning? I had a coin years ago that was totally black in color. I tried to remove the color and the surface broke down and looked something like your coin? So it might be that die, or not. Just can't tell from the images provided.
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 Posted 09/11/2021  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that it is tough to be sure based on the pics supplied. This is the best side-by-side comparison that I can do:


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 Posted 09/11/2021  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just not showing a difference on the OP's coins. The condition would be a problem for this coin. Just not convinced on this one.
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 Posted 09/11/2021  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add examiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The top of the 1 has taken a hit, and the bottom of the bust has Machine Doubling. The positioning looks really close, but need better photos. A closeup of the entire last 8, to include the top. I recommend a USB microscope w/ camera. Please try to post, I'm totally interested in knowing what you have found.
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 Posted 09/11/2021  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brown12-B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I apologize for not having better pictures. I just bout this coin a few day ago though and know better than to clean them. If you look at my second pic though at the last eight on the top right you may notice the mostly horizontal line going across it. That's the top of the seven. The coin is pretty bad though I will admit
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 Posted 09/11/2021  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brown12-B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I apologize for my grammar. It looks like proofreading is going being necessary for future replies
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 Posted 09/11/2021  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brown12-B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will do that for sure. I have a number of coins that require better equipment then what's at my disposal to take photographs. I'll get back to you guys thank you
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 Posted 09/11/2021  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You might want to try a soak in 100% pure acetone, not standard nail polish remover.
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 Posted 09/11/2021  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me, the date logo is too far left, so I'm skeptical. Compare the top of each digit to the bust contours above the date in Spence's two images.
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 Posted 09/11/2021  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add examiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice, Coinfrog. I see it now. The 1st and 2nd 8s appear to be out of position. Uh oh. From my experience, once it starts to go "no", it stays "no".
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 Posted 09/12/2021  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RedRaider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep....date position is off. Its close, but as pointed out, everything is just slightly left.
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 Posted 09/12/2021  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry Picker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Date position is wrong
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 Posted 09/12/2021  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've had quite a bit of experience with this variety. On a typical well-worn coin, it's easy to verify a genuine specimen by comparing the tip of the bust to the tip of the serif on the "1", and then the position of the denticle below the "1". In this case that isn't possible because the denticles are gone and the corrosion is quite advanced, so comparing the digit tops to the bust's bottom contour is the best bet.
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