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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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MS-63 only a guess. Toning tends to hide many things.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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would be interesting to see this one in hand, sometimes the trueview images don't really show the "true" view of what it actually looks like in hand with those kind of colors and the magnification on this is quite extreme, so you can see any minor imperfection, I think when they grade the standard is 10x magnification.
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Valued Member
United States
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The coin has some light chatter on the chin that isn't as easy to see in hand, but also is hidden by the toning..it is a gorgeous piece, I won't comment for or against the grade as I am the consignor. The hair in the trueview isn't rare..this happens sometimes. The coin wasn't submitted with it and wasn't encapsulated with it..just unfortunate the photographer at PCGS missed it...to be expected with all their backlog these days unfortunately... feel free to call me Will. I'm a 22 year old collector/dealer from the Greater Toronto area
my PMs are always open, whether you have a question or simply wish to talk!
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08/16/2022 6:10 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Valued Member
United States
127 Posts |
Since a CCF member is the consignor of this coin in an upcoming sale, I will make no further comment.
thedollarman
I sent you a message, did you get it ?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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@TheColorofMoney - good eye. Also, gross!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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US TPGs bump up the grade for nice toning. ICCS does not. |
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Taiwan
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PCGS offers a Webcast series titled " Learn To Grade Coins." . It is well worth watching to learn their approach to grading MS coins. The webcast video on Toning and its effect on the final grade will clear up some misconceptions I see expressed far too often here.
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Canada
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"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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This is a perfect example of one rule I adhere to in all of my coin buying.....(being a long time collector of ICCS coins) Be very wary of toned Canadian coins in PCGS or NGC holders as they are quite often grossly overgraded (by ICCS standards and NOT overgraded by US TPG standards). |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Is it just me or is there a hair running through the G and under the R in gratia in the TrueView pics? Funny that they would add the photos with a forign object in the picture...maybe it was slabbed with a famous hair?
I can't see this being higher then ms65 and personally would not grade this higher then ms64. Still a nice coin but I'm not one for toners
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Valued Member
Taiwan
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Sold for $2640 . Congratulations to the consignor and buyer.
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Valued Member
United States
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Definitely good for the consignor. Not for the buyer as that coin is over-graded by at least 1 point.
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Valued Member
Taiwan
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How can you be so adamant that this coin is over graded by at least a point when you have not seen the coin in hand?. The bidders on this coin either saw the coin in hand, were represented by someone at the auction or did their due diligence before hand. This coin checked all the boxes. Grade, rarity & eye appeal are apparent to anyone who specializes in this series. This coin brought a record price. I would say the coin is properly graded.
These individuals are not playing guess the grade over a computer screen. Congratulations are certainly in order as the competition was strong.
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09/23/2022 6:23 pm
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Posted 08/16/2022 3:22 pm
