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1965 Cent Variey 4?

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 Posted 12/30/2007  11:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jamez to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Lost on these things. Can somebody confirm or not if this is a V4? LB P5.





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 Posted 01/05/2008  05:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a Large Beads, Pointed 5 to me!
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 Posted 01/05/2008  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I concur. Nice.
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 Posted 01/05/2008  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jamez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks gang. I thought that it was but that pointed 5 thing really messes me up.

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 Posted 01/05/2008  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are great photos. Did you take them with a QX3/QX5?
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 Posted 01/06/2008  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jamez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, QX5 with external lighting, using the software that comes with the unit. Cropping it in another program.

For a toy it does a pretty nice job.
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 Posted 01/06/2008  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
great find! Congrats!
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 Posted 01/07/2008  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always find it hard to tell the B5 from the P5. They're both on a slant, just the P5 is more so. I got one in a set a few weeks ago that I think is a variety 4. My camera isn't good enough to take detailed pics tho. Nice Find!
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 Posted 01/20/2008  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I picked up one from the wifes change in her purse! We don't get the CAnadian coind in change very oftem. This has "Small beads", and the "A" points between the beads. The pointed/blunt "5" is my stumbling block. Where it the "point"? On the top, right side of the bar, or are we talking about the tip of the vertical bar? Help!Looks like I beat you to it! Itis thelarge Beads, Pointed 5!. the "A" points to the right of the bead. The top, right end of the bar is 45 degrees, which makes it a "pointed" 5. Nar. 4
Dick
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01/21/2008 3:56 pm
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 Posted 01/21/2008  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, Dick, There are 4 Varietys in the 1965 small cent.
If you have the small beads, pointed 5 you have
variety 1, Mintage around 300 mil
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 Posted 01/21/2008  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks SHAFTA9a! Now what sould stipulate the other three varieties? Please list them, so I can mark them in my "book".

SHAFTA9a. I'll save ypu the trouble. I went to my brand, spanking , new CDROM, and found everything about it. It is the Var. 4! No extra spine, (bud). Have a look:

I just found it.



Dick
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01/21/2008 6:47 pm
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 Posted 01/21/2008  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have Variety 1= small beads - pointed 5
Variety 2= small beads- blunt 5
Variety 3= large beads- blunt 5
Variety 4= large beads- pointed 5

Variety 4, is probably worth the most, it was what Jamez had
at the beginning of this topic.
Hope this helps some

Sorry typing to slow
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01/21/2008 4:09 pm
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 Posted 01/21/2008  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm...after finding a 65 LB 1c today, I'm not so sure about the photo above. Referring to Charest's book, he states the pointed 5 should end in a 45 degree stroke. However, other sources don't show it quite so pronounced. In this coin's case, I think a few circulation impacts have possibly made the point sharper than it is. In other guides, I've also noticed the blunt 5 has a more flared end on the bottom stroke. I have a similar coin to yours that I'll post shortly.
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01/21/2008 7:59 pm
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 Posted 01/21/2008  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
KurtS, I won't argue the "point", as the photos in the book leave MUCH to be desired. I projected the image on a 27" TV screen, and checked the angle. It is Not exactly 45 degrees, nor id the mook, also checked with protractor. It is more like 60 degrees. I checked the photo of the Poster, and it is the same as mine. J&M.com don't help, either. The photos are generally too amall to be of any help. I'll be ewaiting to see what you come up with.
Dick
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01/21/2008 10:59 pm
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 Posted 01/21/2008  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dick, wow...you really got into that! Not to dispute his coin needlessly, because my skepticism extends to the coin I found today, which looks very similar.

I'll look for a negative on the pointed 5 variety and post a photo so we can compare. Otherwise we run the risk of attributing every '65 LB as a V4.

So, here's a '65 photo I pulled from an auction, where the 5 does appear less pointed. Maybe that means both our 65 LBs are V4s? I wouldn't mind, since I paid all of .25 for that MS RD example.

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01/21/2008 11:46 pm
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 Posted 01/22/2008  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
KurtS, I saw your other post, and checked the angle of the 5. It is the very same angle, I.E., closer to 60 degrees than 45. A line drawn scross the end of the "5" eill cross about midway thru the bottom loop , while a 45 degree angle will place the line across the bottom of the vertical bar. The book, and J&M.com photos all indicate both line positions, and the SIC, 45, is actually more vertical thatn that. My monitor lends itself to placing an artists grid on the bottom, and allows one to read the various details. That is what I use for determining the RPM's, etc, because I don't do "overlays" yet. At the same time I project an image onto the TV screen, and that allows me to "paint apair of lined, perpendicular to each other, and place the image from the camera there. It, too shows the samre angle. Don't fight it! Enjoy! You earned it, even if you did have to pat "2-bits" for it. I got mine at face!, from the wifes change.
BTW, I have about 35, or 40 coents, total, and went thru them looking for varieties. I think there were 4, maybe 5, all told.
Dick
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01/22/2008 01:21 am
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