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Grading Colorized Coins

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In Canada, we've had 2 circulation coinage with colour on them. On the first one, with a poppy, the colour wears off easily and since there's no colour grading system, I was wondering what your take on this is? Do you think the colour should have an effect on the coin's grade?
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 Posted 01/05/2007  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that it should since it left the mint as a colorized coin. I know that coins that are colorized here in the US after leaving the mint have their grade affected by the alteration.

As a side note, I think the holographic colorization on Canadian coins to be the most beautiful effect I've ever seen. Some of the prettiest silver and gold coinage comes from Canada.
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 Posted 01/05/2007  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add newdavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you are right the color wearing off would effect the grade. And our friends to the north do mint some of the best silver and gold coins.
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Originally posted by newdavid

I think you are right the color wearing off would effect the grade. And our friends to the north do mint some of the best silver and gold coins.


I agree might have to come up with special grading procedures for this type though
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The color wearing off the coins makes the coins circulated,, I can see no reason for a specialised grading criteria for color .

Mint state means that the coin is original condition, color intact, circulated examples will show wear on all details including the colorized portion.

And canada certianly does have some very nice coins .





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quote:
Originally posted by Metalman

The color wearing off the coins makes the coins circulated,, I can see no reason for a specialised grading criteria for color .

Mint state means that the coin is original condition, color intact, circulated examples will show wear on all details including the colorized portion.

And canada certianly does have some very nice coins .

I would tend to agree usually, but they had reports of the color just coming right of before it left the RCM so how is that a circulated coin, based on standard grading criteria I understand your stance. But I am not sure on these ?





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Originally posted by Metalman

The color wearing off the coins makes the coins circulated,, I can see no reason for a specialised grading criteria for color .

Mint state means that the coin is original condition, color intact, circulated examples will show wear on all details including the colorized portion.

And canada certianly does have some very nice coins .



I would tend to agree usually, but they had reports of the color just coming right of before it left the RCM so how is that a circulated coin, based on standard grading criteria I understand your stance. But I am not sure on these ?




I would think if the color came off (e.g., flaked off), it would be treated as a bag mark and its grade lowered accordingly.

Rick said it best: Mint State is original condition. If it was minted with a tulip growing out of it and the tulip wasn't wilted, then it would be a higher Mint State grade.

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I think that the colour should be taken into consideration, however, knowing that the colour comes off very easily, I don't think it should have too much of an effect. I've never even seen a poppy one with the colour still perfectly on except in rolls. In July of 06, we had a breast cancer one with the pink ribbon, the colour on that one seems to last longer. And thank you, Canada does produce very elegant coins!
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