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 Posted 08/12/2012  07:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I just picked this one up on the bay and would like some opinions on it.







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 Posted 08/12/2012  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Once again, the wear on her ear and eagle breast suggests AU58. Just and opinion though. And I'll also say that I've seen slabbed coins graded MS63 look worse that this. It's a real slider.
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 Posted 08/12/2012  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An easy one, MS-63. This is an MS coin no question. Typical O Mint soft strike above ear and breast feathers.
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 Posted 08/12/2012  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Blazing cartwheel on this one. Has a few luster grazes but I would agree it is a slam dunk for an MS-63
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 Posted 08/12/2012  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have this one in hand yet either. I'm hoping it's a good as the seller's photos. The exciting part is it appears to be a VAM-1C2. It would be my first R7 variety.
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 Posted 08/12/2012  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS63, going away.
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 Posted 08/12/2012  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How much do the little dings on the rim affect the grade? Not much I'm guessing, and based on the main focal points I'd say MS 63, maybe MS 62 if there is a grumpy PCGS grader on duty that day.
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 Posted 08/12/2012  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO That's a clean MS63. Definitely not AU.
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 Posted 08/12/2012  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Captain Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks MS-64 to me, very nice clean Morgan
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 Posted 08/13/2012  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it does appear to be the VAM c2 version, got a reap pick there not may in ms 63 if it can be graded, very nice coin...G
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 Posted 08/13/2012  04:24 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-63 to me.
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 Posted 08/13/2012  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How much do the little dings on the rim affect the grade?
Well, when you get stuck, it's like anything else, just take a deep breath, look at the coin, and think it out. The rim and edge certainly aren't primary focal areas. They're not even what one would call secondary focal areas. If they're anything, they're tertiary focal areas. Still, they're like the frame on a picture, so even little dings, there, do have a bearing. As far as the market goes, and what it will tolerate, I'll say little dings on the rim and/or edge loom the larger when the coin is at the threshold of a gem, but are pretty much irrelevant below that.
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 Posted 08/13/2012  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How did I miss this?

That's a VAM-1C2. Look at the wreath to the viewer's left. The depression around it is so obvious that it's clear even in these small images, as is the big double clash characteristic of the C2 subvariety.

Welcome to an R-7 VAM, Dave. You are a serious winner with this one.
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 Posted 08/13/2012  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks SsuperDdave. I was really nervous someone else would notice this one and snipe it out from under me at the last second. The good thing about this VAM is all the PUP's are on the reverse and the only thing you see is the obverse when scrolling through auction listings . I was actually looking for this VAM after reading about it on the VAM world message board and needless to say quite excited when I came across this one unattributed.
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