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 Posted 12/06/2018  02:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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austrokiwi.I made this post for a setup on a budget of $400.00! Ray has done that for me and many others. If you are looking to debate something other than this, I don't think this is the thread it should be done in....just my opinion




Let's make this clear. I didn't want a debate. Every positive thing I said about the camera are things that rmpsrmps has identified as suitable for coin photography. One thing I didn't state that rmpsrmps has also correctly identified is that the M/3 sensor format(4/3) is actually better suited for coins.

Now for those who are confused by me stating that I was suggesting the camera as opposed to recommending it. I do make recommendations from time to time on cameras for coin photography. But never in a forum like this. When I do make specific recommendations I establish exactly what the person's needs are. I give them options and make it clear they need to do their own research as well.

I stopped posting on this thread a couple of years ago as it seemed every time I made a casual comment RMPSRMPS would turn it into an argument. It was a mistake, this is my last post in this part of the forum. I just find rmpsrmps technical and argumentative approach destroys any enjoyment of the photography part of the forum. The issue for me is the one solution fits all approach that stifles looking at other ways of doing things. In photography, there is never ever any single best way. There is no best camera there is no best lens.

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12/06/2018 02:57 am
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Canada
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 Posted 12/06/2018  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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When I do make specific recommendations I establish exactly what the person's needs are. I give them options and make it clear they need to do their own research as well.


Im not a photographer and never will be, I just wanted a simple setup....one setup that worked without doing a bunch of research. Most of us are busy with life and don't have the time to spend looking into things. I found that doing "research" just confused me more. Ray put a simple list together of what I needed, and most important he told me how to use it in the most easy way possible without all the technical jargon.



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I just find rmpsrmps technical and argumentative approach destroys any enjoyment of the photography part of the forum.


There was no enjoyment in photography until I met ray! IMO he is a great teacher.



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The issue for me is the one solution fits all approach that stifles looking at other ways of doing things. In photography, there is never ever any single best way. There is no best camera there is no best lens.



I don't think anyone has questioned that. I'm sure he could have gave me 20 different recommendations and told me to research....that's not what I wanted. Again, I just wanted "one" setup and a little advice on how to use it and Ray was the only one that gave me that. He has also tweaked the setup to help suit the needs of others.

5 years ago, I was about to give up but decided to give it one last chance and asked for help on here....I went all in and put my trust in Ray and in no time at all, I was producing amazing pictures, even better than I hoped for.

What's even better, 5 years later, I still don't know a thing about photography and have no idea half the time on what you guys are talking about, BUT I can take a great picture of a coin! Thanks Ray!


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12/06/2018 05:09 am
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Canada
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 Posted 12/06/2018  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What's even better, 5 years later, I still don't know a thing about photography and have no idea half the time on what you guys are talking about, BUT I can take a great picture of a coin! Thanks Ray!


I will second and third this, I'm in the same boat.

Thanks Ray
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United States
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 Posted 12/06/2018  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks rmc and mcshilling for your kind words.

I've received many emails over the last 5 years (even recently) from folks who rarely post on the forum saying they had put together the <$400 setup and it was working well for them. The thread has also been linked in most other coin forums either by me or by others when the question of a low-cost / high performance system comes up. No telling how many of these setups have been put together, but the feedback I've received has all been positive.
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12/06/2018 11:49 am
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United States
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 Posted 12/09/2018  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinphotofan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel indebted to Ray for his advice on the setup of the system. Although I have grown out of the <$400 setup (I am using 75 ADR, Printing Nikkor 95mm and Cannon/Olympus/Minolta bellows lenses), it was Ray's posts that sent me in the right direction. From my experience with the Chinese coin photography chat group, I understand that most people just need a good-enough, cost-effective setup for taking nice pictures, without going into all the technical details of macro photography. Ray's recommendation serves this purpose very well.

By the way, I find tethering essential to my coin photography work. It makes life much easier.
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United States
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 Posted 12/14/2018  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 11997755 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the < $400 set up is great however I am willing to spend a little more on camera but want to be able to use the other items listed. I am looking at a Canon T6. Then I see a Canon T6i and a Canon T7. I have around 7 or 8 hundred to spend on the camera....but which one ? Does the rule that the more you spend the better the camera apply ? I will be using it for 90% coin photography. Which one do I get ?
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 Posted 12/14/2018  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been recommending the T6i. T7 looks similar but even though it was released later, it has an older processor generation. Both are 24MP so no real difference.
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United States
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 Posted 12/14/2018  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 11997755 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I've been recommending the T6i.


10-4 I will begin focusing on the T6i. (No pun intended)
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United States
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 Posted 03/04/2019  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In another thread there was a question regarding the ability of the <$400 setup to frame full slabs. I wanted to answer here since many folks interested in the info may not look in the other thread. The issue is if the total extension can be made short enough with the <$400 setup to have low enough magnification, which is required for framing larger objects. My original recommendation of the 17-31mm helicoid, with extensions, allows a very wide range of magnifications, even to infinity focus! In later posts here and elsewhere I've been recommending the 35-90mm helicoid, which gives a mag range that fits well with the full range of US coin sizes. However, the minimum extension of 35mm won't allow the system to go much bigger than a Dollar/ASE size coin, so with the 35-90mm helicoid you will be limited to full-coin imaging, and won't be able to frame slabs. If you want to frame slabs, get the 17-31mm helicoid instead, and add extension tubes when shooting smaller coins.
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United States
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 Posted 03/11/2019  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like someone put together the <$400 setup, and either graduated to a new system, or gave up...and is now selling the system on eBay for an extremely low price. Great opportunity for someone thinking about putting this together...it has everything, and is selling for $140 !

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-Rebe...AOSwXCVcg-hE
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 Posted 03/11/2019  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Ray but you would still need to get a copy stand to finish the setup.
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 Posted 03/11/2019  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just saw this cool looking QuadraPod on eBay. This would complement the eBay system nicely, though it's quite a bit more than the original estimate for a cheap tripod. Together they'd be $270:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Quadrapod-...283347090452
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United States
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 Posted 03/12/2019  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting quadra-pod option. Here's a tri-pod option on eBay that could work as well. I don't personally own this tri-pod, so I can't comment on how good it is etc., but it's one of the most versatile tri-pods I've seen.
Edited by BadDog
03/12/2019 08:21 am
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United States
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 Posted 03/12/2019  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good! The inverted pillar is a very nice option. Some other tripods also have this feature. With the price of the system having dropped so much, it leaves more room for a better tripod/quadpod/copy stand to stay within budget.
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