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The Goal: 25,000 Rolls Of Nickels (All Searchers Welcome!)

 
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 Posted 02/17/2008  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here it is; the 2000 roll update!!

First, the last 100 rolls.

100 rolls
35 pre-1959
1 silver nickel (1942S)
no oddball coins
no pre-1982 Canada

GRAND TOTALS TO DATE:

2000 rolls
845 pre-1959
43 silver nickels
1 Proof (1993s)
5 Buffalo nickels (dateless,1920,(2)1927,1929s)
3 Bermuda 5 cents (1970,1987,1996)
1 Bahamas 5 cents (2000)
1 Belgium 1 Franc (1975)

Here is the breakdown by date and mintmark to this point:

1938 - 8
1938d- 0
1938s- 1
1939 - 30
1939d- 0
1939s- 0
1940 - 73
1940d- 6
1940s- 7
1941 - 70
1941d- 11
1941s- 9
1942 - 16
1942d- 3
1942P- 2
1942S- 2
1943P- 9
1943D- 0
1943S- 11
1944P- 10
1944D- 0
1944S- 0
1945P- 5
1945D- 2
1945S- 2
1946 - 40
1946d- 11
1946s- 3
1947 - 36
1947d- 7
1947s- 3
1948 - 18
1948d- 5
1948s- 3
1949 - 17
1949d- 11
1949s- 2
1950 - 0
1950d- 0
1951 - 8
1951d- 4
1951s- 0
1952 - 25
1952d- 10
1952s- 8
1953 - 12
1953d- 27
1953s- 2
1954 - 21
1954d- 45
1954s- 6
1955 - 3
1955d- 26
1956 - 14
1956d- 28
1957 - 12
1957d- 70
1958 - 26
1958d- 66

Next update tomorrow; I found a bank that isn't my dump bank that is open the holiday tomorrow!

Next full breakdown at 3000 rolls, probably in about two weeks! Good Luck Hunting!
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 Posted 02/17/2008  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CND,

I sure like that breakdown. From the looks of it, you only have about nine blank spots to have a representing coin from every mint from '38-'58! Awesome job!

I'm definately inspired to the point that I'm now going to have to set a modest goal of my own. I'm gonna go for 1,000 rolls by the end of the year. If that goes better than I expect, then I'll have to reset a second mark to hit. Can't allow you to be having all the fun copper nickel dude !

I know you've likely gotten some other offers already on this, but when all is said and done, maybe we can do some trading on dates that we each might be missing. It would be great to finish two full sets- one for each of my kids. Might not be so easy for some of the more key dates. But it'll sure be fun trying!

On the metal detecting we've mentioned; it would only be fair to clarify that I don't currently even own a MD. But that is high on my list of problems to correct very soon. Tax return is just around the corner and I've already got mine picked out from Kellyco. I'm already detecting at heart. I've been making note of numerous old farm houses in my area to ask for permission on. As for Lake Cumberland; I know of a few areas to check out that have possibly never been detected. A couple of these are old swimming holes that are no longer accessable from land. I recall losing change out of my own cut-off shorts pockets while swimming at one of these places as kid. Considering the number of people that use to swim/cliff dive at this spot, I know I wasn't the only one to have lost valuables.
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 Posted 02/18/2008  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the results of todays 100 rolls. Found a pretty tough date today!

100 rolls
43 pre-1959
1 silver nickel (1943P)
no oddball coins
no pre 1982 Canadian

Did find a 1939s in VF! That makes two of the so called "big five" found (38s,39s)

GRAND TOTALS TO DATE:

2100 rolls
888 pre-1959 (5 most common: 1940(77),1957d(72),1941(71),1958d(71),1954d(48))
44 silver nickels (3 most common: 1943S(11),1943P(10),1944P(10))
5 Buffalo nickels (dateless,1920,(2)1927,1929s)
1 Proof (1993s)
3 Bermuda 5 Cents (1970,1987,1996)
1 Bahamas 5 Cents (2000)
1 Belgium 1 Franc (1975)

DATES NOT YET FOUND:
1938d,1939d,1943D,1944D,1944S,1950,1950d,1951s

Only need 8 more to complete the set!

Another update tomorrow; Ciao for now!
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 Posted 02/20/2008  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As everyone knows, the banks where closed on Monday. So, in order to get my fix I went around to a few stores to ask if they had any extra rolls of nickels or pennies. I found coins at three different stores. One was a grocery store at which I got two rolls of nickels. Another was a dollar store type establishment. And the third was a convenience store. I used the $25.50 I had on me for a total of 11 rolls of nickels and 7 rolls of pennies.

Although the finds I made where not numerous, a couple of them were pretty significant. In the nickels I held back the following:
2- 1959D
2- 1957D
1- 1941
1- 1938D!
I was pretty excited about the '38D. This is the oldest nickel I've found so far. I was even more excited about what I found in the pennies. Although I didn't find a single wheaty in the bunch, I did find an 1897 Indian Head cent !! This is by far the oldest coin I've ever found ! Hopefully one day I will best that but for now this is a milestone for me! Very nice. When I first noticed it, I thought it was a Canadian cent because it looked so different. Needless to say it didn't take me long before I figured out that I was mistaken. If my camera would take macro photos I'd post a picture or two. I can't seem to get a clear photo any closer than about 8 inches. Guess I could just give a try to see how it looks anyway.

The moral of the story here is; If you ever need a "fix" on a day that the banks are closed, don't rule out asking at some stores. Most stores won't give you any more than a couple of rolls at a time but that may be all you need to get you through the weekend .

I know this post is a little off topic for your nickel survey CND. But I figured it has at least partly to do with the nickels .
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 Posted 02/20/2008  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great Find Numi!! What kind of shape is the Indian in? I do go through penny rolls, but only about a box a week or so. In the last month I found a 1917, but nothing older than that. Congrats! Also, have to mention the 38d, as that is one of the "big five", and I'm still looking for that one. Great Finds!!

Here are the results of the most recent 100 rolls:

100 rolls
51 pre-1959
2 silver nickels (43P,45P)
1 Buffalo nickel (1928)
no pre-1982 Canadian

Filled another hole in the album (1950)

GRAND TOTALS TO DATE:

2200 rolls
939 pre-1959 (5 most common: 1940(80),1957d(78),1958d(76),1941(73),1954d(49)
46 silver nickles (3 most common: 1943P(11),1943S(11),1944P(10)
6 Buffalo nickels (dateless,1920,(2)1927,1928,1929s)
1 Proof (1993s)
3 Bermuda 5 cents (1970,1987,1996)
1 Bahamas 5 cents (2000)
1 Belgium 1 Franc (1975)

DATES NOT YET FOUND:
1938d,1939d,1943D,1944D,1944S,1950d,1951s
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 Posted 02/21/2008  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CND,
Thanks for the congrats on my finds. Yeah I'm pretty happy about it too. I had noticed in the books that the '38D had a pretty low mintage but I had no idea it was such a good find until you pointed it out to me. Too bad it's not in better shape. Better than a blank though!

I finaly figured out how to size some images and such to the point that I got some pretty good photos of the nicekl and the Indian cent in my documents. Only trouble now is figuring out how to get them transported over to the forum. I gave it a shot but I still don't have something right . When I get it figured out I'll get them posted here (that'll be about 3 yrs from now- LOL!).

The Indian cent is in pretty good condition in my opinion. It is obviously much less worn than the '38D nickel! Do you happen to have any suggestions on where I might start looking in my area for some kind of albums or protective 'keepers' for my coins? Even some of those tiny little zipper baggies would be nice for starters.

I've searched quite a few rolls of pennies since the first of the year but not near as many as nickels. The only other decent find I've made in the cents was one wheat. Don't recall the date right now. The oldest wheat I have is a 1920 (found in my change while delivering pizza). Other than that, I have a 1905 Indian Head cent. My dad bought one of those for each of his four kids long before I even understood what money was . I'm glad I've held onto it all these years.

I searched 33 rolls of nickels yesterday.
Here's my results on that.

33 Rolls
8 Pre- '59
1 53D
1 52D
1 52S
1 51D
1 48
1 44P(silver!)-pretty rough shape.
1 40D
1 40
This was only my second silver nickel found since I started searching rolls on 1/22/08.

DATES NOT YET FOUND:
Uhh....A whole bunch!
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 Posted 02/21/2008  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add decoinboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A few weeks ago I found what appears to be a 1965 SMS. It has a very strong strike and slightly mirrored background. Does anyone know if there is a way to tell the difference between a SMS and a first strike? Any information would be appriciated. Thanks

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02/21/2008 01:14 am
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 Posted 02/21/2008  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyeluvcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would do a little research on the term "first strike"...that word can be misleading and I'm not sure if it even really exists legitimately.

Good Luck,
Laura
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 Posted 02/21/2008  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Between yesterday and today I searched 50 rolls of nickels. Here's what I found:

17 Pre- '60 nickels
1 59d
2 58d
1 57
1 57d
3 54
1 53s
1 52d
1 49
1 46
1 42d(not a war nickel)
1 41
1 40
Nothing too spectacular but these will certainly help when I get around to making some sets.

You may have noticed that I'm keeping track of any that are older than 1960. Actually I'm holding back anything older than 1970 just to have a head start on building some sets. Of course I'm not keeping all of the '64's as these would add up very quickly! Only the finest specimens from '64 make the cut .

Id' just like to add this note. If there is anyone that's interested in collecting nickels from the 60's to present, now would be the time. I say this because I've come accross alot of coins from the 60's through the 80's that are in really nice shape. Far nicer than so many from the 90's to present. Don't know how long this will be the case. It's a real shame how so many of those from the 90's and newer are showing severe wear before their time .

Happy hunting everyone.
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 Posted 02/21/2008  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Numi!
One theory as to why so many prime condition late 50s to late 60s nicks are showing up is all of the banks that are beginning to have lobby counting machines. Most people can't be bothered taking the time to empty out and roll the contents of those old coffee cans and water bottles, but just walking into the bank and dumping them into a machine is not just easier, it's fun! Also, on a similar note, CoinStar is making it easy to dump old change. With the economy on the edge, many people are looking for any way they can to generate some extra pocket $$$.
As far as your dilemma of where to find supplies, if you don't have a coin shop locally you might want to try eBay. Also, I think there is a forum on here to get suggestions for companies that are good to deal with online; you can get ideas there also.
Next post is the latest 100 roll update; totally forgettable 100 rolls!
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 Posted 02/21/2008  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd like to pose some questions to all of you who are doing the nickel roll hunting.

First, when you guys ask for full sealed boxes, is this something that must be ordered or is there a chance that the bank may have some in the vault? How/who do you approach when asking for them? The head/vault teller? Please let me know on anything else that might help me out here. I'd like to give it a try. Especially considering the result you, CND and Eyeluv, are having from these sealed boxes .

Also, I've been wondering about the 'way' various rolls are rolled. The hand rolled ones are obvious with both ends folded in. What about those that have the one end sort of rolled in and the other end folded in? Are those what you get from the coinstar type machines? Also, is it because of these coinstar machines that you occasionally find dimes in rolls?

One more. I'm guesing that it's the Fed wrapped rolls that are 'rolled/tucked' at both ends and all are the same type wrapper. Is that right? Any other inside info on this is much appreciated.

Thanks for the help!
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 Posted 02/21/2008  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Numi,
Some banks that I go into have the boxes right in the small teller area vault (which all of the tellers have access to) and then there are others that have to wait for the head teller to go back to the main vault. Most large banks keep a large quantity of all coins pennies through quarters in stock for everyday use, so unless it is near the time that the bank is expecting it's coin order, the bank should have boxes in stock.
I have also found that if you can, try to buy from larger banks, as they keep more change in the vault. Unless you have an account at a smaller bank, many small banks won't give bulk coin to non-customers because they don't keep as much of it in stock, and they want to save it for customers. You can go to any teller and ask; most tellers are very cheerful and helpful (at least to me!)
If your box is a box ordered from an armored company or the Fed, the rolls inside should be open ended on both ends, and look as if they were rolled by a wrapping machine. The armored company most predominant around here (Brinks) has theirs wrapped in clear heavy shrinkwrap. Makes it easy to pick out the rolls with silver nickels in them!
Any rolls with an end that is folded over; if you get these in a box the bank made up that box from customer rolls, or it might be the contents of one of the lobby counting machines.
I have only found a dime in a roll twice. Once, in a customer roll that only contained 39 coins (somebody obviously was short two nickels and didn't want to cheat the bank!), and the other time was, oddly enough, in one of the shrinkwrapped rolls that I went through. That dime did look like it was attacked by a sledgehammer, though!
Good luck with your boxes; as always let us know what you find!
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 Posted 02/21/2008  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numi 63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CND,

We must be typing our posts in sync - LOL!

You pre-emptively answered a bit about the Q's, on the coinstar machines, I just made in my previous post. I hope you are right about more folks rolling up their coffe cans ! That's very good news for us. Makes me glad I've gotten into the CRHing when I have!

I see your point about those new machines popping up in bank lobbies (only one I know of so far is at Kroger). I was thinking that another possible reason why so many of those 50-60's coins were in better shape might be because they were just struck better(?)! Just speculating here, but it does seem that many of the newer ones were struck on the gentler side.

Thanks for the tips. I don't know of a coin shop in my area but I haven't looked real hard yet. I'll have to pursue that. I'm sure doing so would help me to learn alot more.

Thanks!
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 Posted 02/21/2008  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Numi,
We are posting in sync!!
The 50s and 60s coins do seem to be struck with a higher relief, but in order for them to have the great mint color (luster) that many of them have they could not have circulated for a long long time. Just a few days in circulation will put a number of scratches on them. You're right about today's coins looking like they are struck more gentle; to strike in higher relief takes more die pressure, which in turn wears out the dies quicker. So, looks like the Mint is trying to save money! Just my opinion; others op-inions on the subject are welcome!
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 Posted 02/21/2008  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the results of another 100 rolls. As I mentioned before, a pretty forgettable group!

100 rolls
33 pre-1959
0 silver nickels
2 Bahamas 5 cents (1998,2000)

GRAND TOTALS TO DATE:

2300 rolls
972 pre-1959 (5 most common: 1940(85),1957d(79),1958d(78),1941(74),1954d(53)
46 silver nickels (3 most common: 1943P(11),1943S(11),1944P(10)
6 Buffalo nickels (dateless,1920,(2)1927,1928,1929s
1 Proof (1993s)
3 Bermuda 5 cents (1970,1987,1996)
3 Bahamas 5 cents (1998,(2)2000)

Seven dates not yet found:
38d,39s,43D,44D,44S,50d,51s

We are in the middle of a bad ice storm here, but managed to get to two banks to get 100 rolls! Perfect weather outside for ripping into some coin rolls!!
1 Belgium 1 Franc (1975)
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