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Here is one of the cents, just received. Looks like a bad case of MD. Comments? Later: I had a chance to look a bit closer at the coin, and the denticles are doubled in some areas, where the MD is most severe. I'll try to get another photom that is more revealing.  Dick Edited by livingdinasaur
01/29/2008 1:42 pm
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Wow...that's an extreme case, but yes--that would be my guess, unless you find some clear serif separation somewhere. So, how many 49 ATs have you found sofar?  |
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KurtS, Only two," dead on" so far. There are also two that are "dead center" between. Several that are on the edge of the denticle. How many mints are there in Canada, that made these cents? Are they also made in UK? I'm trying to establish a base for the "ball-park" strikes, where it isn't clearly "on", or "in between".
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Dick, as far as I know--all Canada 1c were minted by the Royal Canadian Mint in the 40s. And, that would definitely be true during WWII! I'm still a little puzzled by your in-between cases because I've never seen any myself--only the two varieties. However, I have seen a few coins where the denticles appear a little twisted, and that may complicate attribution. If you have any really puzzling coins, post a pic and I'll give my opinion.  I'm a little surprised you have only found 2 so far. Then again, I spent 2 days at a coin show this weekend, and after going through hundreds of Canadian cents, I did not find a single one!  I can only guess that locally I stumbled upon a cache of these cents, because between just 3 dealers, I've found 10--and it was very easy! |
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KurtS, I turned the coins upside down, and put a cross on the TV for a reference. Then I checked again, and found three more AT's, by placing the base of the "A" on a line, and "aiming it at the rim. You guessed it! AT, not "ball-park". There are 5, so far. I'll re-do the lot! Have a look at the three, today.    BTW,I picked up an album, 1920-1965, with two missing: '23, and '25. It cost me $0.99, plus S&H. Dick Edited by livingdinasaur
02/05/2008 12:19 am
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Wow! That's a great deal on the album! Did that include a '55 NSF? I'm going to flip those photos and take a look. Ok, flipping the photos I can see how they're somewhat vague. Still, since the "A" points left of the denticle, to me these are off-denticle because the "to-denticle" variety points slightly right of denticle. Edited by KurtS
02/05/2008 12:57 am
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Which brings us back to square three: Three "apparent" positions. That is what prompted the question about the mints. Do we have three varieties?
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I'm thinking it may have more to do with different lengths of denticles, the wear on the coin, and the resulting appearance of denticle alignment. I think my examples are pretty well preserved, and may compare differently to more worn copies. Lest we forget: the 49 "to-denticle" and "off-denticle" varieties are just markers of the real difference between the dies: high-relief and low-relief. I think any '49 cent falls into one of those two categories.
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You are more likely right, there. I think the only real conclusion would be to make overlays, and identify the different dies, thereby putting into different categories, with the high/low relief heading. Like our MM varieties. Opinion?
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Well...perhaps sometime I'll photograph a side-by-side on high/low relief '49s in a way that's visible. While I think the difference is distinctive, it's more of a confirmation than a rule. To do any accurate overlays, one would have to know the configuration of every LR or HR die, right? And, I'm not even that detailed-driven, lol! Edited by KurtS
02/05/2008 10:11 pm
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Kurt, I just finished about 3 hours of checking, andwriting a few conclusions, and when I went to post, I got the message that there was a problem. Invalid password, or id! I have been logged in, and had posted in several topics, without any problems.
The net worth of the post was that I checked 32 coins, and 26 are dead on, ( as verified by either "A". One is the opposite of the other, in case one is damaged, the other can be used, taking into account you need the reverse info). Six of the coins showan identical error, (in that both "A"'a show the same "off center, but tio opposite directions). This tells me there are at least two working hubs, which would account for this anomily. I have NOT found a"points between", as such. The overlays would indicate this difference after a number of coins had been checked. Just like the MM positions, ot the absence therof. I have another 50 coins that IO am going to check, and list by location, as the 32 were. (Sure beast listening to the candidates, and their long spiels about what they will do whrn elected, when they are like every one before them, that has promused the world, and delivered nothing! If they were dictators, or absolute authority, then they could say ,"i'll do this, or that, and one could count on it! not possible in our system of government! Later:Kurt, I just finished the other tube, (48), coins are a "hair thicker). All of them are the same. Poinsts to> I rechecked the 6 that wrer a liyy=ttle off, and they also read Points AT!. UI se the outline of the "A", and the three denticles, directly below, and all are the same80 of them.
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02/05/2008 11:22 pm
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