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Russian Silver Ruble 1743 ...... Please Help Verify

 
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Australia
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 Posted 04/23/2017  04:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gunstar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi everyone!

I need help with this coin.... I need to verify if this is real?

It weighs a little over 26 grams.

Non magnetic...

Ping test OK....

What do you guys think?

Thanks a bunch!





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United States
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 Posted 04/23/2017  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your example is actually slightly overweight. If genuine, in this condition we'd be talking about a coin worth $1,000+, and given that, it's worth faking in the correct .800 silver composition and paying attention to duplicating the correct edge style.

See: https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...duid-1538453

However, the details of the portrait match up poorly (note particularly the "pointy" nose on yours, also the thinner hair with a space between it and her shoulder). Other variances abound if you look closely.

Even though varieties do exist, based upon the degree of these observed stylistic discrepancies, I'll opine with a high degree of confidence that this one's a modern numismatic forgery.

Colligo ergo sum
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04/23/2017 2:10 pm
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Australia
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 Posted 04/23/2017  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gunstar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info Lucky Cuss...... it's a good thing I didn't pay too much for this one!
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Australia
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 Posted 04/23/2017  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not genuine - details are just wrong and it's too circular. (technology back then could not strike perfect coins)
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries

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Uruguay
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 Posted 04/24/2017  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cara to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not know about this kind of coin, but that golden patina is a red flag for me. I have seen it in most modern numismatic forgeries, it is like artificially made.
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Austria
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 Posted 04/24/2017  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gxseries - I agree, there is much on this coin which we do not see on old ones.

An old-fashioned pictoral comparison does it here.

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Australia
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 Posted 04/24/2017  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gunstar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Greetings to All.... Thanks for your comments and opinions. It has been an education!

Again Thanks..... Cara, gxseries!
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