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Official Post A "Black Beauty" Jefferson Nickel Thread!

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 Posted 06/07/2020  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thelionwarrior to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't really collect nickels but years ago I put these back because I liked how black they looked. Didn't know this was a thing. Are these what you guys consider black beauty's? 1988 D and 1973



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 Posted 07/22/2020  01:37 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@thelionwarrior

Sorry for such a delayed response, but I don't think either of those would qualify. One place to look first is the rim. On your two coins, a silvery color can be seen showing through which indicates that the dark color is only on the surface and has been worn away with circulation. That suggests some sort of environmental damage.

I believe true Black Beauties are a consistent color all the way through. However, I haven't had the guts to cut one of mine in half to prove it!

On a different note, I decided to send one of mine in to ANACS to be graded/attributed. It's the 1958 at the very beginning of this thread. I figure it will top out at MS-63, but I'm hoping to get it into one of their special Black Beauty-label slabs.
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 Posted 07/22/2020  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Spruett. I'll still be away from home another three weeks or so, but if you send me a PM in late August as a reminder I can send you a pair of BU black beauties and you can cut one and do whatever to the other one to appease your curiosity. Just be sure to post the results here. Over the past few years I have had the opportunity to go through dozens of BU rolls from the black beauty years and have rather a lot of them. Sending you two to experiment with seems worthy, and since they are directly from BU rolls there is very little chance they have been tampered with.
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 Posted 07/23/2020  03:16 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is very generous of you, tropicalbats. I will try to remember!
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 Posted 07/31/2020  02:20 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The results are in!




I have to say I'm pretty satisfied with the outcome.
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 Posted 07/31/2020  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice!
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 Posted 07/31/2020  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought this was an improper annealment issue, not an alloy issue. You may have an error coin in an error holder.
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 Posted 08/01/2020  01:53 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I thought this was an improper annealment issue, not an alloy issue.


I've seen both descriptions on ANACS slabs and I don't know when or why they changed it. As far as I know, there is no official consensus on the cause, but I personally believe the alloy mix theory.
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 Posted 08/02/2020  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The results are in!


I've seen that one somewhere before!
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 Posted 12/01/2020  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kcm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's one of mine. I sent these images to Paul Hanan in Wisconsin. Paul is a Master Die Variety Examiner for CONECA. After an exchange or two, I shipped him the actual coin (just the Black Beauty, not the reference coin). I have others from other years, and I needed a good compass. Paul confirmed the authenticity of this one. It makes identifying the others a great deal easier for this novice.

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 Posted 12/20/2020  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HumblePie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't even know if Proofs apply to the Black Beauty Nickel. I have had these 1963 Proof Nickels for a while and always wondered about the color. I was poking around on here for some info on BB's and found this Thread/Topic. The "gunmetal" description in the original post made me want to at least post some Photos and see what you think.





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 Posted 12/21/2020  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will let the experts decided if this is a black beauty, but fantastic example regardless!
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