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Chinese Kirin Province 'Flower Pot' Silver Coin..... 1898?

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 Posted 06/09/2017  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gunstar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Albert,

I'll keep you posted on what I find out about the authenticity of this coin. Thanks again.

Kelvin
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 Posted 06/09/2017  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I remember, I think your Chinese character for KIRIN, 9 spine tail, and rosettes point towards one of the 1898 coins. Of course also the absence of some other devices that are only found on different years.
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 Posted 06/12/2017  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No doubt about it: it is a Chinese replica. All "rare" and "valuable" coins are forged and can be found very easy.
I have dozens of them....
https://www.thespruce.com/chinese-c...ring-4071202
http://testyourgold.com/why-bullion...-than-coins/
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06/12/2017 1:34 pm
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 Posted 06/12/2017  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm leaning towards genuine unless better pictures or owner replies reveal something else.
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 Posted 06/16/2017  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are many varieties known for this. Kirin cons are known to be severely underweight due to rampant fraud and thus was shunned by the merchants in that era. This also meant that they were much scarcer due to their poor acceptance.

It's hard to say whether it's genuine or fake. Would definitely like another photo of the edge. I understand it's difficult but I suggest sandwiching it between two books and retake the photo with micro zoom. Using the timer function would help as well if you have shaky hands.

This could be easily a few hundred up to a thousand dollar coin if proven to be genuine.
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 Posted 10/01/2017  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gunstar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Albert,

as promised your efforts to identify my Kirin Province coin is reconciled with a result. I have put it to the PMV and it tested about 83% silver. Which is about right for that period. I promised you results and here it is! Again, Thanks for taking the time to evaluate my pics!


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 Posted 10/01/2017  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certainly am very glad you had such a test result. It's hard to judge some of these coins by images. The legit can be so similar to the fakes. I have no doubt an actual fake can look like your coin, but I seriously doubt that it would test as 80% silver.
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 Posted 10/03/2017  05:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These kind of coins are allways fakes/forgeries.
The replica's are even made in silver.
Specially if the real coin is valuable:
https://www.thespruce.com/chinese-c...ring-4071202
There are several simple methods to check for silver:
magnet test
ping test
ice test
neodymium test
....
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