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 Posted 09/13/2017  9:28 pm Show Profile   Check Collects82's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Collects82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Good evening, I am looking to plug the 582 hole for my collection of the 82s, and have come across this lower cost piece that could work. It is noted as Regnal Year 5, which should put it to about as close to 582 as I'll get. I'm looking to do my basic research on this type, so I am asking where is the regnal year noted in the design?

Anything else a newbie should note for this type?

My hoard of '82s is up to 111! 282 x 1, 782 x 2, 982 x 1, 1182 x 6, 1282 x 2, 1382 x 1, 1482 x 2, 1582 x 9, 1682 x 10, 1782 x 26, 1882 x 33, 1982 x 18
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 Posted 09/13/2017  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IIRC, Tiberius II regnal years are tricky (that is, they're counted from some earlier office, before he officially became emperor), and the regnal year 5 isn't actually the 5th year of his reign.
(And the regnal year on this example doesn't look like a 5 to me, anyway, though it doesn't really look like anything else either.)

But as to your question, the regnal year is usually opposite of ANNO - in this case, it should be in the gap to the right of the big K (though, as mentioned, I can't associate the squiggle seen on the pictured coin with any particular number).
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 Posted 09/13/2017  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@collects82, that looks like a pretty nice half follis of Tiberius II Constantine. His reign of being Augustus was from 578 to 582 AD, with a regnal year of 8 corresponding to 581/2 AD. The regnal year year is located on the rev of the coin between the two right-hand legs of the letter K. While it isn't my area of expertise, I'd tend to agree with the regnal year of 5. That corresponds to 579 or 580 AD. A neat coin to be sure, but not really an '82.

added: @J1M, according to my Sear, the following regnal years have been noted: 4, 4I, 4II, I4/II (where the number four is actually an open looking thing--sort of a cross between a number 4 and a capital letter U).
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 Posted 09/13/2017  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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where the number four is actually an open looking thing--sort of a cross between a number 4 and a capital letter U
To clarify, this vaguely Y-shaped thing is actually the Byzantine abbreviation for VI, that is, 6.
(I have a nice clear example of this digit from Justin II, which can be seen in the latest post of the "going back by decades" thread.)

As for the squiggle on this half follis, I think the serifs from the K are interfering as well. My best guess is YI = 7.
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 Posted 09/13/2017  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe this is Tiberius II, He did not have ant regnal years indicated by a 5 or 6. It's a little difficult to see but I believe it is a 6. I also believe the coin is Justin II and Sophia. Sear #366.
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