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 Posted 10/10/2017  09:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Its been a while sonce I picked anything up. This was my most recent aquisition( arrived this week) I am trying to find a example much closer to 1575.




the above image was severely compressed for posting. Original image can be seen here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B...UOEpqTy1DaHM

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 Posted 10/10/2017  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice original example. I've been tempted by one of these at coin shows many times.

I congratulate you for your excellent selection.
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 Posted 10/10/2017  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you attach 2 images, one obverse and one reverse, it would not need as much compression.
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 Posted 10/10/2017  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you attach 2 images, one obverse and one reverse, it would not need as much compression. Each separate image uncompressed is around 32mb ( as a Jpeg) The original Tiff is 128mb ( each side)
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 Posted 10/10/2017  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysilveryears to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my 1576. The last two digits of the date are sort of hard to read.



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 Posted 10/10/2017  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
much closer to 1575


1576 is actually a rather plentiful date... and I believe that was the first date that appears on the coin.
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 Posted 10/12/2017  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgenn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
austrokiwi, why the focus on the date? For me, I am most concerned with a full strike (or as full as possible for these hand hammered coins). Here's mine:

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 Posted 10/13/2017  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coins in my collection tell a story. I want the earliest possible date ( I believe with out checking 1575 was the first date this coin was struck) of striking of one of the international significant Dutch Lion Thaler ( I have read enough tantalizing but fragmentary evidence) to believe the first Thaler to be called "Lion Thaler" was the Joachimsthal strike
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 Posted 10/16/2017  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wonghinghi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To the best of my knowledge, the first mint year of this type is 1575.

Two more 1576 pieces posted.




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 Posted 10/17/2017  06:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RE: the 1575 date:

Made me check this out... I had never seen (didn't know about) the "early" style apparently used for 1575 and part of 1576. Having a hard time even finding a pic of a clear 1575-dated one (though I see several of that style dated 76):

http://goccf.com/t/134885#1200713
http://www.coinfactswiki.com/wiki/H...der_Dav-8837

This one on eBay now claims to be 1575, idea being that what's visible of the last digit has to be 5 not 6. I guess I agree...:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1575-Nether...202076514514
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10/17/2017 6:12 pm
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 Posted 10/18/2017  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add plonker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very nice coins all. Here is my 1616 Lion daalder. It is graded VF-35 but I think it is lot sharper than most of the higher grade daalders I have seen.


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 Posted 10/18/2017  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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very nice coins all.


I agree! These are really great large silver coins.
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