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Newfoundland 1940 Re Cent (Planchet Flaw?)

 
 
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 Posted 11/17/2017  08:30 am Show Profile   Check TheDeductible's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here is a "re-engraved" or machine doubled 1940 Newfoundland small cent.
The reverse shows no signs of what I assume is a planchet flaw on the obverse.

I'll wait for other people's opinions before I state my own.

This coin is very interesting to me and I appreciate any comments regarding:
- how you think this coin came to be.
- the grade.

Cheers!



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 Posted 01/23/2018  09:35 am  Show Profile   Check TheDeductible's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So, not one comment. Very depressing! Come on people!

I believe this coin to have a planchet flaw. Perhaps a drop of oil made its way in to the mixed molten metals when struck. I have no real idea, which is why I posted on this site. Anyway, its cool and I like it.

If anyone else has an idea of why this coin looks the way it does, please offer your opinion.
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 Posted 01/23/2018  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wear-wise I'd say VF+. It could be a planchet flaw or a strike-through or PMD. The pics don't show it well. Is it incuse? Raised? Sharp edges? Can't tell from the photos.
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 Posted 01/23/2018  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree...need a pic from a shallow angle...is it scratched? raised? impossible to tell from one photo
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 Posted 01/23/2018  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like PMD to me. Why do you think it's a planchet flaw? Agree grade is strong VF.
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 Posted 01/24/2018  08:47 am  Show Profile   Check TheDeductible's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for piping in with your opinions.

I do not think the dark line across the head is PMD. If it were damaged, the lobe of the ear would also be affected I think.

We need a new pic to further discuss. I will try for a shallow pic that shows the coin on more of a plane. Check back tomorrow.
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 Posted 01/26/2018  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Check TheDeductible's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Having a hard time getting the right photos...

I'll try again
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 Posted 01/29/2018  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canacoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me it looks PMD . I gotta a theory but I'll
for better pic's .
"If you going to err,do it with flair . That way you'll remember and not repeat the mistake"

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 Posted 01/29/2018  09:38 am  Show Profile   Check TheDeductible's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, there will be no better pics. I can't even get new ones as clear as the ones already posted.

Please offer your opinions without new photos.

Thanks!
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 Posted 01/29/2018  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You still haven't answered if the anomalies are raised or recessed. Whatever it is affects both the design and the fields. That usually eliminates strikethroughs and most planchet flaws, as well as any problems with the hub.
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 Posted 01/29/2018  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Check TheDeductible's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I can see, the anomalies do not appear to be indented or raised. They are flat to the rest of the design.

What are you thinking?
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 Posted 01/29/2018  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Check TheDeductible's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another pic I managed to take...

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 Posted 01/29/2018  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that something rested on the coin for a long time that had some oil or chemical content ... a piece of a rag, leather, plastic, etc. There was just a chemical reaction .. maybe they were together in a drawer or box or something.
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Quote:
They are flat to the rest of the design.

That throws out my theory . Okiecoiner's thoughts would explain the overall condition . I concur with that.
"If you going to err,do it with flair . That way you'll remember and not repeat the mistake"

W.R.Robertson
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