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 Posted 05/02/2018  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I LOVE the dark toning. Excellent example!
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 Posted 05/02/2018  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Coinfrog, jbuck, and SilverDollar!
PCGS submissions 2005-2018. Mailings(21) Orders(43) / 249 coin attempts. 12 Fails(5%) / Member vouchers(19%) Economy(62%) Regular(13%) Free(3%) Express(3%) / Barber 50c (46%) Classic Commemorative (38%) Hawaii(3%) SCD (6%) Other(3%)/ Fails: Cleaned(2) Alt surfaces(1) Scratch(1) Damage(1) "86"(3) 2 Columbian & 1 BTW; Min Grade(2) DNC(2)-Same coin NGC XF40 Barber 50c. Express fees paid by seller (cross guarantee). Kept the coin & later submitted raw: PCGS XF40 [eyeroll] Fails: Econ(8) Regular(2) Express(2)/// Other TPGs: ICG (2011-2018): 35/35 NGC: 0 ANACS: 0
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 Posted 05/03/2018  05:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a big fan of the circulation cameo look. In that regards a lovely Monroe indeed.
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 Posted 05/04/2018  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, nickelsearcher!
PCGS submissions 2005-2018. Mailings(21) Orders(43) / 249 coin attempts. 12 Fails(5%) / Member vouchers(19%) Economy(62%) Regular(13%) Free(3%) Express(3%) / Barber 50c (46%) Classic Commemorative (38%) Hawaii(3%) SCD (6%) Other(3%)/ Fails: Cleaned(2) Alt surfaces(1) Scratch(1) Damage(1) "86"(3) 2 Columbian & 1 BTW; Min Grade(2) DNC(2)-Same coin NGC XF40 Barber 50c. Express fees paid by seller (cross guarantee). Kept the coin & later submitted raw: PCGS XF40 [eyeroll] Fails: Econ(8) Regular(2) Express(2)/// Other TPGs: ICG (2011-2018): 35/35 NGC: 0 ANACS: 0
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 Posted 06/01/2018  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jst1dreamr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I need to start a new grading company for coins that have been around the block a few times. I also look at some of these coins and imagine scenarios in my head about the journeys taken before landing in my collection. It can be a lot of fun.
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 Posted 06/05/2018  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@jst1dreamr consistency in grading these pieces not intended for circulation is poor because the numbers seen are relatively low, so the grading company, in this case yourself, would pretty much have to do a grade description for each design! So, we are peons to the subjective whims of professional graders. I think they are trying to give an accurate grade...nope, no I don't. They smell lowball coin and upgrade just like they downgrade regular strikes worth $$$ in order to get re-submissions.

Good luck with that venture though! I think most of us also ponder the travels these coins have made. And what makes this series so 'exotic' is that they were intended to be collected, not circulated, but during the Depression years, were widely used. I believe I read the Columbians and others were encouraged by Uncle Sam to be recognized for their silver content* needs verification.
PCGS submissions 2005-2018. Mailings(21) Orders(43) / 249 coin attempts. 12 Fails(5%) / Member vouchers(19%) Economy(62%) Regular(13%) Free(3%) Express(3%) / Barber 50c (46%) Classic Commemorative (38%) Hawaii(3%) SCD (6%) Other(3%)/ Fails: Cleaned(2) Alt surfaces(1) Scratch(1) Damage(1) "86"(3) 2 Columbian & 1 BTW; Min Grade(2) DNC(2)-Same coin NGC XF40 Barber 50c. Express fees paid by seller (cross guarantee). Kept the coin & later submitted raw: PCGS XF40 [eyeroll] Fails: Econ(8) Regular(2) Express(2)/// Other TPGs: ICG (2011-2018): 35/35 NGC: 0 ANACS: 0
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 Posted 06/05/2018  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Raw purchase. Pictures with my phone holding the coin on edge, so the rim shadow is my fingertip at 4 o'clock.



PCGS submissions 2005-2018. Mailings(21) Orders(43) / 249 coin attempts. 12 Fails(5%) / Member vouchers(19%) Economy(62%) Regular(13%) Free(3%) Express(3%) / Barber 50c (46%) Classic Commemorative (38%) Hawaii(3%) SCD (6%) Other(3%)/ Fails: Cleaned(2) Alt surfaces(1) Scratch(1) Damage(1) "86"(3) 2 Columbian & 1 BTW; Min Grade(2) DNC(2)-Same coin NGC XF40 Barber 50c. Express fees paid by seller (cross guarantee). Kept the coin & later submitted raw: PCGS XF40 [eyeroll] Fails: Econ(8) Regular(2) Express(2)/// Other TPGs: ICG (2011-2018): 35/35 NGC: 0 ANACS: 0
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 Posted 06/06/2018  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lovely Iowa - G06 perhaps?


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They smell lowball coin and upgrade


I've experienced widely fluctuating and inconsistent grading standards for my circulated examples - as I believe can be said by anyone who has made a serious attempt at this set in honestly circulated state.
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 Posted 06/06/2018  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Lovely Iowa - G06 perhaps?


That's what Bob and I were thinking as well (:

I've switched from Dansco to airtights/CAPS album. I didn't like the Classic Commem premade one by CAPS, since on page 1, they didn't make a 25c and $1 hole with the rest 50, but ALL holes were $1 size to accommodate the Lafayette. (You put the Isabella and Halves in an airtight and then an adapter for the $1 size hole, so it didn't rattle around in the large hole). It is not the 144, rather a type album.

It's a blank album and blank pages for Half Dollar size coins, so I can move things around as I like - date or alphabetical order -- and without worrying about slide marks, or dropping coins. If locations get more permanent I can use my label maker, and also put old PCGS tags on the blank backing page. The only negative so far is some of the holes are a bit loose, so when turning the pages over, an airtight falls out of the hole (some are a bit too snug as well). I'll make shims for the larger holes. Also the airtights rotate in the hole, but they are easily re-aligned.

Pictures one day... so far, with a few phone camera attempts, it has been challenging, as the size of the folder is large. May have to do one row at a time.

edited for typos and clarification.
PCGS submissions 2005-2018. Mailings(21) Orders(43) / 249 coin attempts. 12 Fails(5%) / Member vouchers(19%) Economy(62%) Regular(13%) Free(3%) Express(3%) / Barber 50c (46%) Classic Commemorative (38%) Hawaii(3%) SCD (6%) Other(3%)/ Fails: Cleaned(2) Alt surfaces(1) Scratch(1) Damage(1) "86"(3) 2 Columbian & 1 BTW; Min Grade(2) DNC(2)-Same coin NGC XF40 Barber 50c. Express fees paid by seller (cross guarantee). Kept the coin & later submitted raw: PCGS XF40 [eyeroll] Fails: Econ(8) Regular(2) Express(2)/// Other TPGs: ICG (2011-2018): 35/35 NGC: 0 ANACS: 0
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 Posted 06/07/2018  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Not Mint to Be to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And I love that quote too. "They smell lowball coin and upgrade"
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 Posted 06/07/2018  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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And I love that quote too. "They smell lowball coin and upgrade"


The Lowball Registry gave PCGS graders more potential job security in capitalizing on another market. I get it; they have to make a living and no one is perfect, especially with this series.

It's the blatant double standard that is frustrating.

For a 1916 D Mercury dime, the WEAKER side determines the grade. For example, to get a G4 vs AG3 (big price difference), both sides have to be all there for G4. I've not checked for PO1 for this particular coin, could have said 1901 S Barber quarter, 1916 SLQ, etc., but it seems like there could always be "a little more wear." Very subjective on the PO1.

For a lowball coin, the STRONGER side determines the grade. In order to get a FR2, both sides have to be FR2.

Why the difference?

Can the graders really know? For this series, of course.
PCGS submissions 2005-2018. Mailings(21) Orders(43) / 249 coin attempts. 12 Fails(5%) / Member vouchers(19%) Economy(62%) Regular(13%) Free(3%) Express(3%) / Barber 50c (46%) Classic Commemorative (38%) Hawaii(3%) SCD (6%) Other(3%)/ Fails: Cleaned(2) Alt surfaces(1) Scratch(1) Damage(1) "86"(3) 2 Columbian & 1 BTW; Min Grade(2) DNC(2)-Same coin NGC XF40 Barber 50c. Express fees paid by seller (cross guarantee). Kept the coin & later submitted raw: PCGS XF40 [eyeroll] Fails: Econ(8) Regular(2) Express(2)/// Other TPGs: ICG (2011-2018): 35/35 NGC: 0 ANACS: 0
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 Posted 06/13/2018  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1946 S BTW




Thoughts? Easier to find worn P&S than D mint
PCGS submissions 2005-2018. Mailings(21) Orders(43) / 249 coin attempts. 12 Fails(5%) / Member vouchers(19%) Economy(62%) Regular(13%) Free(3%) Express(3%) / Barber 50c (46%) Classic Commemorative (38%) Hawaii(3%) SCD (6%) Other(3%)/ Fails: Cleaned(2) Alt surfaces(1) Scratch(1) Damage(1) "86"(3) 2 Columbian & 1 BTW; Min Grade(2) DNC(2)-Same coin NGC XF40 Barber 50c. Express fees paid by seller (cross guarantee). Kept the coin & later submitted raw: PCGS XF40 [eyeroll] Fails: Econ(8) Regular(2) Express(2)/// Other TPGs: ICG (2011-2018): 35/35 NGC: 0 ANACS: 0
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 Posted 06/15/2018  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lovely color G06 BTW. Nice one indeed.
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 Posted 06/16/2018  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@jbuck @nickelsearcher Thanks! Seems like I'm stuck picking up G6 commems recently
PCGS submissions 2005-2018. Mailings(21) Orders(43) / 249 coin attempts. 12 Fails(5%) / Member vouchers(19%) Economy(62%) Regular(13%) Free(3%) Express(3%) / Barber 50c (46%) Classic Commemorative (38%) Hawaii(3%) SCD (6%) Other(3%)/ Fails: Cleaned(2) Alt surfaces(1) Scratch(1) Damage(1) "86"(3) 2 Columbian & 1 BTW; Min Grade(2) DNC(2)-Same coin NGC XF40 Barber 50c. Express fees paid by seller (cross guarantee). Kept the coin & later submitted raw: PCGS XF40 [eyeroll] Fails: Econ(8) Regular(2) Express(2)/// Other TPGs: ICG (2011-2018): 35/35 NGC: 0 ANACS: 0
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