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 Posted 03/18/2018  7:07 pm Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this while roll hunting are these errors confirmable? I'm seeing Poor Man's DDO, D/Liberty, Die Chip?, Weak Strike Obverse on liberty, weak strike reverse(or just wear), as well as the wood pattern on obverse and the difference in coloration may be attributed to dye wear. What do you think?




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 Posted 03/18/2018  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@GC, first welcome to CCF. Second, I appreciate your enthusiasm on this post--it certainly is an interesting coin. Better pics would help, but here is what I see: the tick mark over the T in LIBERTY looks more like damage to me than a die chip. I'm not sure what sort of treatment was done to the front, but the rev looks like it has been damaged with acid rather than a mint error. I will say that I don't think that the entire coin has been immersed in acid though. I don't see any doubling with these current pictures--a close up would definitely help.
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 Posted 03/18/2018  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To CCF! I hate to say this, but it's not what you think you have. The reverse appears to have been dipped in acid. The obverse also appears to be altered too. It's all Post Mint Damage (happened out of the Mint, not in the Mint). It's now a cull coin and only worth face value.
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Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 03/18/2018  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sadly, I must agree.



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 Posted 03/18/2018  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the CCF.

Your coin is all post mint damage ... keep looking.
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 Posted 03/18/2018  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CJ18850 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 03/18/2018  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tried some more/better pictures.







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 Posted 03/18/2018  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its amazing what a few swipes across a 400 grit piece of sandpaper will do...
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 Posted 03/18/2018  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the other replies. This is all post mint damage. Because the coin began circulating again, the obverse has developed a circulation cameo of sorts with the dark staining being worn off gradually on the high points.

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 Posted 03/19/2018  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's all PMD (Post Mint Damage).
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 Posted 03/19/2018  07:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, dying is something done to cloth. Striking a coin, even with a worn die, does not change the color of the coin from bright copper.

Everything that changes the coloration - from eye pleasing "toning" to ugly brown is environmental damage. Difference is that people will pay for one and not the other.
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 Posted 03/19/2018  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The lines you see on the obverse could be attributed to "rolling marks", but the coin has been damaged or worn beyond anything of value. My opinion is that it does look like rolling marks (as the "lines" go right up to the edges, and through, the devices), but they have been enhanced by corrosion or an acid attack. Nothing more than a conversation piece now...

Also "rare" is a bad term to use with describing errors on coins, as every error can be unique... the only thing out there consistently rare is my steak!!
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