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1984 Lincoln Doubled Die Missing In Mail Recently On Stacksbower

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 Posted 05/01/2018  7:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jsalsa123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey All. I was wondering if I have any recourse. I sold a 1984 Doubled Die on eBay to a person in California. I was the original submitter of this coin to PCGS and can proove that. He notified me that the coin was missing from the package and that he had opened a missing item report with the Post Office. Nothing came of it and I refunded him his money. This occurred in May of 2017. Just the other day I went and plugged in the PCGS number into the verification checker to see if it had showed up in any auctions and to my surprise it last sold in January of 2018 in a Stacks Bower Auction. I can show I submitted the coin, I have the payment and refund information from eBay and PayPal and was wondering if there is anything I can do to possibly get the coin back. Any help would be appreciated.
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 Posted 05/01/2018  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no lawyer, but I would take a first step by contacting Stacks Bowers and advising them just like you have here. I'll bet they get back to you right away with useful advice from their standpoint.
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 Posted 05/01/2018  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would contact Stacks Bowers.
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 Posted 05/01/2018  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed. Start with S & B.


If they do not get back in touch with you, contact eBay/PAYPAL and the post office.
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 Posted 05/01/2018  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalsa123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Guys! Will do tomorrow.
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 Posted 05/01/2018  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good luck and keep us informed!
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 Posted 05/01/2018  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it will be quite interesting to find out who Stacks was selling this for and the trail backward, just may go to your original buyer....hmmm?
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 Posted 05/02/2018  06:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vonigohcr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would imagine that you are still the legitimate owner of this item since the sale did not go through and you provided a full refund.

I assume that you have also retained the paper trail regarding your sale, the claim and subsequent sale reversal and refund as they may be necessary to assert your ownership.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  07:59 am  Show Profile   Check chafemasterj's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man. good luck. Personally I think you have a strong case.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you file a police report or a report with the post office reporting the theft that included the slab number? The refund from eBay is probably not enough proof. If you don't have reports it's going to be difficult to prove that the coin was stolen and that it still belongs to you.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover1899 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep us updated!
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 Posted 05/03/2018  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any response from auction company? Contact USPS yet?
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 Posted 05/04/2018  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jsalsa123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have had contact with Stacks Bower and send them the information to prove ownership and fraud. They are going to get back to me soon. Nothing from USPS.
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 Posted 05/04/2018  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent.

By chance, have they divulged the entity that placed the cent with them for auction?


By chance, they could be the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc owner since the coin was stolen from you.
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 Posted 05/05/2018  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't expect them to divulge the identity of the seller so quickly or easily.
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 Posted 05/24/2018  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover1899 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any update?
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