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1967 P LMC Struck Through Copper Foil

 
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 Posted 05/08/2018  1:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this 1967 P LMC that I believe has been struck through copper foil scrap. How this cent survived this long without peeling off I will never know.




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 Posted 05/08/2018  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newbie234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting. I'm going with a lamination flaw or faulty planchet.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I've learned most all de-lamination coins show that they run in a straight line. At least the ones that I have do.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More of a struck through debris issue. Jim is probably quoting me as I've said the many times. If so, then the coin should be a bit heavier as metal is added to the coin.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Again, you're right Mr.Coop. Weight is 3.08gm
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 Posted 05/08/2018  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well it should have been over 3.11+.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jim, check your scale. It might need to be recalibrated.

Would an underweight coin suggest damage?
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 Posted 05/08/2018  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buddy, it's spot on. I put an uncirculated 1974D on it and it weighed 3.1gm
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 Posted 05/08/2018  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shotgung to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty cool either way. I'd own it
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 Posted 05/08/2018  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note how the obverse image you posted looks a bit out of round? at 11:00. Is the reverse complete?
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 Posted 05/08/2018  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll pull that cent and take reverse pics. It won't be until tomorrow though!
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 Posted 05/08/2018  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No rush. Just a thought.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
3.11gr +/-.13gr at 3.08 is very close considering wear as is. 3/100 of a gram isn't very much.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice and interesting find! That's a very good example of a coin being Struck Through Copper Foil Scrape.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 05/09/2018  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here you go Mr. Coop!

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 Posted 05/09/2018  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The devices look a bit smaller, but that would not affect the weight. Why not? The planchet is started and finished with the strike with the same weight on a normal strike. If metal is struck onto the coin, then the coin would be a bit heavier. If there was a lamination, then it would weigh less because of the loss of coin material. But a set of smaller devices, mint marks, die cracks, cuds, struck through (without the item it was struck through) will not change the weight. The metal is just rearranged to have the same weight going in and coming out a coin.

But your coin does show some wear in circulation. But I expected the weight to be a bit higher. (weight + struck through debris) But the planchet may have been a bit light and the struck through didn't change the weight. Thanks for the extra images. (I like exploring all possibilities)
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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